Looking for something....electric

[tls25rs]

watch the front and rear wheels in slow mo on both vids... then go watch vids of the other 7/8ths or midsize machines and compare. No where NEAR the wheel wagging, particularly in back that you see on current bikes outside the Varg, so that's awesome.

What issue are you describing here? Suspension? Geometry? Power?

[Kurlon]

What issue are you describing here? Suspension? Geometry? Power?

Under-strength frame and swingarm for the power and use case. Repurposed mountain bike parts being pushed way past their design point squirming and flexing under stress. Lots of these bikes are known for throwing chains and eating sprockets because of the excess swingarm flex taking the sprockets completely out of alignment for example.

[tls25rs]

Under-strength frame and swingarm for the power and use case. Repurposed mountain bike parts being pushed way past their design point squirming and flexing under stress. Lots of these bikes are known for throwing chains and eating sprockets because of the excess swingarm flex taking the sprockets completely out of alignment for example.

One of my first reactions when riding a Surron that had been uncorked. I rode it and said no thanks. Going way too fast for mountain bike wheels and brakes. Never really pushed one in any kind of off road environment but I can imagine there might be some flexing going on. Oddly enough the long time manufacturers of dirt bikes have figured out a thing or two about the needed strength of their chassis, wheels, brakes etc. while trying to make them lighter at the same time. One of the reasons the Varg intrigues me as the chassis of that bike looks like a "real" dirt bike. Bonnells are also intriguing for similar reasons. More electric dirt bike than electric mountain bike.

[typeone]

Under-strength frame and swingarm for the power and use case. Repurposed mountain bike parts being pushed way past their design point squirming and flexing under stress. Lots of these bikes are known for throwing chains and eating sprockets because of the excess swingarm flex taking the sprockets completely out of alignment for example.

One of my first reactions when riding a Surron that had been uncorked. I rode it and said no thanks. Going way too fast for mountain bike wheels and brakes. Never really pushed one in any kind of off road environment but I can imagine there might be some flexing going on. Oddly enough the long time manufacturers of dirt bikes have figured out a thing or two about the needed strength of their chassis, wheels, brakes etc. while trying to make them lighter at the same time. One of the reasons the Varg intrigues me as the chassis of that bike looks like a "real" dirt bike. Bonnells are also intriguing for similar reasons. More electric dirt bike than electric mountain bike.

i should take a vid of the noodle, er, i mean swingarm on the (RFN) Beta Explorer while torquing the wheel side to side. it's wild.

[Kurlon]

So, Livewire has bought out Dust? https://www.livewire.com/the-pulse/l...t-moto-company

[typeone]

So, Livewire has bought out Dust? https://www.livewire.com/the-pulse/l...t-moto-company

been in a hole, thnx for the heads up. they better not fuck with my bike!!

[Point37]

was at a company party where they had raffle tickets...ended up winning one of these...haven't really had time to take it for a romp yet...i wonder if it can be made to go faster, assuming probably not or it probably wouldn't be worth it for what the gain is...

https://iscooter-eu.com/products/isc...ting-e-scooter

[breakdirt916]

lol, imho, as long as you adjust your expectations to minimal/nothing, then they're a hoot for random spurts

if you want performance, save your money.

Took the Moro out again for an evening ride:



It made light work of the climbing. Something that an acoustic bike would take 1-1/2 hours to climb, the eMTB with my chicken legs could do in 45 mins.







It's still nowhere near a "dirtbike" feel, but it got me out there, and I'll take what I can get.

It's just so easy to run with a kid on the way. Charge it -> hitch carrier -> ride it -> charge it. I can "find" 1-3 hours and fit in a ride during inopportune times that aren't during family obligations.

I still want the Bonnell 775MX

I just wish I could demo it somewhere

[Point37]

lol, imho, as long as you adjust your expectations to minimal/nothing, then they're a hoot for random spurts

if you want performance, save your money.

it's basically a commuter/toy...i don't see myself using it that much...it's slow (but would be sketchy if it was fast with those tiny tires)...the battery won't get you too far if you want to run it in sport mode to get the most punch...it doesn't seem like it would be worth it money-wise to try to make go faster vs just buy a better one

[FriskyDingo]

what animal with tiger stripe front legs??

and did it know you were there?? appears to be giving off quite the "don't give a fuck" vibe strolling down middle of the road

[breakdirt916]

lol, it’s a bobcat. When he first saw me he was standing in the middle of the trail and staring me down. Once I stopped and started backing up he either lost interest, decided I was not a threat, or was retreating/escaping, then turned around and trotted away

Our big worry out here are mountain lions.

[FriskyDingo]

Thought maybe it was a Cupacabra ... very cool pic