Looking for something....electric

[FriskyDingo]

I was looking at a metacycle for some of the same reasons. 80 miles of range (supposedly) and 80 mph (also claimed) seems to serve most city purposes. Comes with passenger pegs and its 5k. Can't test drive one just yet, but it looks enticing.

The Sonders is definitely cool and the weight is right, but looks like reserve only for now.

Metacycle is very cool, decent $$ if it lives up to the specs and Sondors has a decent rep / experience in the field, unfortunately they are already SOLD OUT of the Q1 22 reserve

[Point37]

The sondorsx linked above comes pretty close

if they were already selling it i would probably buy one and sell my scooter...the seat looks uncomfortable and i feel like they should make some luggage that fills up the hole in the middle so you have some storage

edit: looks like the sondors hole is used for an extra battery pack

[Point37]

http://www.e-racer.it/
https://huckcycles.com/collections/cycleshop
https://kollterus.com/current-models

https://electrek.co/2021/04/08/honda...rban-commuter/

[breakdirt916]

ooo you want an around-town pavement bike

all the kids around here have super 73's and ride in bicycle lanes and on sidewalks with a skateboard slung along the back

I'm also looking for something full electric, 70 mile range so I can do a local loop with 55-65mph pavement and 25ish miles of dirt, half of which is uphill. Super 73 for you, SurRon for me.

[JettaJayGLS]

Yeah, I admit that a super 73 or two is/are the right bikes for us. But I want to support the EV space and new players in it, so I don't mind going with something a bit more "legit."

[JettaJayGLS]

Another contender to the super 73 is the Onyx RCR-72V. But I much prefer no pedals and a passenger seat.
https://www.onyxmotorbikes.com/products/rcr-72v

If I end up E-bike, I already know what I'm getting.
https://www.vanmoof.com/en-US/s3?color=dark

[typeone]

goddamn the DAB and the custom concept are hot ... i need to start designing these bikes. would be a dream.

[snwbrdr435]

Sur-Ron FTW hyper powerful, lightweight, looks like a bicycle, dank whoolies!

This, I ripped around on one the other day and it was the tits

I vote sur ron or Cake

[feralchimp]

The Cake looks like a lab project the engineers enjoyed their first rip on, so they decided to:
- ship immediately, punting on the rest of an actual design process
- charge about double the going market rate
...and given the current demand, and that they're maybe-shipping bikes while the rest of the market mostly-isn't, I can't say this was a poor strategic decision!

The VanMoof is the other extreme:
- super polished design
- practical af
- relatively affordable

Sur-Ron looks fun as hell. I'd want whatever bicycle tire is closest to Michelin PR5's for it though.

[Paul_E_D]

If anyone gets the Sur Ron, make sure to get the x260

As for the Cake, the design is odd, but the components look light years better than anything else on the market. Power rating is really high too. I think it is closer to an actual MX bike than a bicycle. The Sur Ron is powerfule and fast enough that I feel lie I could taco the wheels in a hurry. Or just overwhelm the suspension pretty easily. The Cake looks like it would be a little overbuilt like an off road tool should be.

[JettaJayGLS]

If the Cake cruiser bikes didn't have a stupidly long wheel base, they would be contenders. But they're ugly.
The motard/dirt styled ones look WAY better.

[nhbubba]

If anyone gets the Sur Ron, make sure to get the x260

X260 is the Segway? Why is it the better choice?

[OreoGaborio]

Google tells me the X260 is the Segway version... and the SurRon X seems to be the direct comparable version that everyone's pitting it against.

https://www.google.com/search?q=surron+vs+x260

Here's a review from a dude that owns both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2C8kCUC1n0

Seems like the X260 just adds a phone app & choice of colors.

[boosten lebaron]

i think the Gary bike on Bikes and Beards is an x260. He spent a fair bit of money on it and it rips pretty good. I think stock he compared it to a really good electric pedal bike but after he modded it he said it was a world of difference and closer to an actual dirt bike.

[nhbubba]

Google tells me...

Seems like the X260 just adds a phone app & choice of colors.

Google told me about the same thing. They are literally the same bikes made in the same factory with different labels. The most redeeming difference in my view is the mode/speed programming. The Sur Ron requires cutting a wire (BFD) and mode programming through a special cable and cryptic brake lever pulls while the Segway has a phone app.

Dunno if I give a shit. Should I?

And the Segway is a few hundred clams more money.

I give zero shits what exciting new graphics one has vs the other.

i think the Gary bike on Bikes and Beards is an x260. He spent a fair bit of money on it and it rips pretty good. I think stock he compared it to a really good electric pedal bike but after he modded it he said it was a world of difference and closer to an actual dirt bike.

Is bikes and beards that annoying as fuck guy on youtube that flips bikes (and makes "content") for a living?
Any cliff notes on the mods? My reservations on the Sur Ron have been it's power for larger dudes like myself and the fact that it really is a powered mountain bike, not a real dirt bike. Most reviews I've seen have said steering with the rear isn't really a thing.

I have a few acres and a small tractor. I've been wanting to build a small track out back for the kids to rip around on. I have my eye on a set of Razor bikes for the wee ones. I intend to burn the track in using my KTM 200 XC. But we are close enough to the neighbors and I am enough of a tree hugger to really want to go electric. I will probably not buy gas machines for the kids. But what will I ride? The Sur Ron has seemed like the best choice so far. But I worry it isn't anywhere near what I'm used to with an actual woods bike. (My 200 XC)

Please show me the path to having a ~$4k Sur Ron that will satisfy!

[Paul_E_D]

Sorry, my bad, Woody told me that there are two levels of Sur Ron. I thought the 3260 designated the higher spec. I guess that was wrong...

[nhbubba]

Looks like there are two levels of Segway, x260 and x160. 160 seems to be de-rated with a smaller battery and lower "payload" capacity. x260 seems to be more expensive, but is out of stock and there is no price listed, so not clear how much more expensive.

So yeah, x260 over x160 for sure. Probably what we are thinking of here.

[JettaJayGLS]

Segway scoot looks like it would get the job done. But I'm still really looking for a moto. That Metacycle seems to check the boxes, will keep an eye for it to return.

Granted, Whit just took a Revel Scooter out to dinner last night, deep in the mission, and immediately sent me a note that said "I might have second thoughts about driving a moped in the city."
She took an ebike home.

[OreoGaborio]

Did she just not like being on the road w/ other cars & preferred the flexibility of using bike paths & walkways? Or was it something else?

[JettaJayGLS]

She compared it to “mountain biking over bridges” I.e., foot wide narrow little wooden bridges she has been known to fall off of. To me, it’s a “looking 2 feet in front of you” problem that gets you all wobbly and over correcting.

But I think she'd get over it. We rented ~150cc scooters in Portugal and did like 100 miles, from Lisbon to the eastern most part of continental Europe, through Sintra, and then back all through Lisbon and I let her drive (me on the back) for most of it. I had no issues sitting back there.

[Point37]

That Metacycle seems to check the boxes, will keep an eye for it to return.

did it have passenger pegs?

edit: yes it does...just an add on that bolts to the rider pegs it looks like

[JettaJayGLS]

Yep, and 200lbs curb weight.

I wish it was a bittttt more old school cafe-esque, but its the best thing I've seen so far that is potentially obtainable.

[Point37]

Yep, and 200lbs curb weight.

I wish it was a bittttt more old school cafe-esque, but its the best thing I've seen so far that is potentially obtainable.

i'm just the opposite i like the higher bars for a more standard seating position

battery pack looks really easy to pull

[OneCheekRider]

Great, now I want a Metacycle. It would be cool if you could pull the battery and use it to power your house/RV/etc too

[Kurlon]

I had a blast ripping a SurRon at Boxshop, but it's too... mountain bikey for me? Trying to really rip on it everything felt like it was on the razor's edge of coming apart or actually ripping itself apart. Stock form it's a decent amount of power in a chassis that isn't really built for the task. I can't imagine one fully hotted up. Sadly the fun ended early, a peg bracket failed when the owner was hitting the dirt section. Lots of potential, I would want something slightly bigger / beefier personally. I don't know if the Storm Bee will scratch that itch or not. The US importer for some reason doesn't acknowledge the Storm's existence?