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I want a motard.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    shit...i don't like where this is going anymore.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Weasel View Post
    hmmm...those motarded XR650s might even make me consider a motard...and i usually have a pretty strong aversion to anything motardy.
    my neighbor has an '02 XR650R that was 'tarded up right then never ridden, only had 300mi. thing is super sweet, he LOVES it and paid way more than he should have at $6500. all the trick shit is on it though. its fast, sounds badass, goes anywhere within reason (i agree with all of markbvt points) and requires minimal maintenance. only issue is the suspension is a little soft for his weight but hes a big guy.

    wish i had a pic and all the specs.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Well I guess I am an old pussy

    I have like 50/50 tires on my drz400S 21/18

    I can lay it over as far as I legitimately want to go. I can never answer this question but I would really doubt that with 17's and "good" tires i would be leaning much farther. Contrary though I think my tires with miny knobs are a real soft compound so maybe not so bad as sticky street tires. The rear showing real wear in 1500 Miles.

    I pose this... If you don't "scrape" things on a regular bike then motard conversion will be of dubious value...

    I acknowledge a coolness factor but $$$$$$

    Additionally I think 3 tire companies make street or 90/10 street tires in sizes that would fit.

    I also have had no problems on the street with stock DRZ braking not even with aftermarket pads.

    MY only complaint was with the seat and my ass pad or a Corbin 300 will fix that.


    I acknowledge my total lack or pretense of cool but have a good sense of

    FUN/$$$

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Good point Rich.

    Mark, I stand corrected. An xr650 might make a good choice.

    I must admit the "coolness" factor is playing a roll in my decision. I know I will need a more comfy seat after the 250x. Just how much more maintenance does a Drz400 need? Compared to an XR650.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    There is a drastic difference between a street motard, and a true motard. I wouldnt be caught dead with a real one on the street, mainly cause I can barely keep it maintained well enough for racing.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    doc the 400 and 650 will both be like non existant maint. compared to the 510s/550s

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by seth399 View Post
    doc the 400 and 650 will both be like non existant maint. compared to the 510s/550s

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    You have to keep up on oil changes though, and they are a pita on the 400 at least. Freaking oil in the frame wtf?!

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    Re: I want a motard.

    I have motarded xr650r...if you were closer I'd let you have a rip on her

    Check out supermotojunkie.com

    The seat though.... ughh... after 80 miles i'm dying. You can get them redone for about 200$
    Maintenance is zero. I love it and if it falls down.. who cares. I havent taken it to a track,
    I do get wind buffeted around 80mph, oil goes in the frame , kicks starting is a cool factor unless she dies in traffic, then you feel sort of awkward. On hot days in stop and go traffic she could overheat, people have added "fans" to the radiator.

    You might even want to swap out the stator or rewind it to get more juice out of it.
    Stock 650r with baja dual sport light /wiring - 2gs
    $900 for excel wheels and rims
    800$ for front and rear shock ( was ok for commuting but for twisties it needed suspesnsion)
    vapor trail meter - 100$
    Bigger tank 4.3 gallon -60$ ebay
    Shortened kickstand for smaller rims/wheels - 30$
    New rotor for smaller wheel/rim - 150$
    rewound stator -30$
    smaller front fender - 40$ or just cut hack the stock one

    stock DRZ -SM off of Cl 3500$ . i see one every 3 weeks and also see a stock xr650L ( electric start) or stock xr650r for $3000

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    hmmmm......

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    I have motarded xr650r...if you were closer I'd let you have a rip on her

    Check out supermotojunkie.com
    not sure if you remember the SMJ member 'blowout' (Anthony from Brooklyn) but that's whos bike my neighbor bought. bike was put together really well. he's going to upgrade the seat for all-day duty as well, prob Renezco.

    my SXV bump-stop seat on the other hand... OUCH. 45min and i need to stand.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Just how much more maintenance does a Drz400 need? Compared to an XR650.
    About the same. Where you get into a lot more maintenance is the KTMs, Aprilias, any of the race-ready motards, etc. Just to give you an idea, my XRL needs an oil change every 2k miles and a valve adjustment every 4k (screw/locknut adjusters, so doing the adjustment takes about half an hour including taking the seat and tank off). That's it. It's been super-reliable, and it'll start easily even when it's 5 degrees out.

    For whatever it's worth, if you feel like scraping together more money, there are a couple other really nice options, namely the Husky SM610 and BMW G650 Xmoto. Both make over 50hp and weigh about the same as an XRL.

    But yeah, for $3k you could put together a nice street motard out of a DR-Z or XR.

    By the way, everyone who's complaining about their seats: get your seat redone by Renazco Racing. Best dual-sport/dirt/motard seats in the business, yet cheaper than a Corbin.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    MY DRZ only had to do jetting...used jets from 400 ATV carb

    It is dry sump oil in frame also

    Battery needs a tender as its SMALL and puny

    Otherwize NADA I think valve check due at 8000 or something

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    hmmmm......

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Wow. That deal seems too good to be true.

    Doc, buy that immediately. I'll buy the stock wheels off you when you get motard wheels.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Stop being a pussy Doc and buy my Husky. It's worth the cheese.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottieducati View Post
    Stop being a pussy Doc and buy my Husky. It's worth the cheese.
    does it come with a "first rebuild is free" clause??

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    Re: I want a motard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Weasel View Post
    does it come with a "first rebuild is free" clause??
    the 610 seems to be very reliable from what I have been told/have read.

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    Re: I want a motard.

    There are two types of people Doc: the kind of people who do shit, and the kind of people who post around on the interwebz talking about doing shit

    And where is my tire rack??

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    Re: I want a motard.

    How can I get it to you? Wanna meet up this weekend?

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    Re: I want a motard.

    I'm just bustin ya... not a big rush or anything. I leave sunday morning for some work travel... maybe friday or saturday we could meet. At some point I think i'm taking denno's motard up to tricky mikes (surprise mike!) to leave it there... that's closer to you than i am

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