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Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

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    Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    http://www.setexasrecord.com/news/22...d-bike-to-flip


    I know what you're thinkin.... "OMG a random crash thread! "

    noooo... I'm pointing out a funny story

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    I might just try if I can go the whole day tomorrow at open practice without using the front brake. T3 should be fun!

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    worst part is.... he'll probably win

    also... how to hell do you flip a vulcan on the brakes?

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Brakes are stoopid.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Pete made a funny!!!!


    It amazes me how people can not take responsibility for there stupid actions...

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    im guessing that they just didnt push the pedal. how do you flip a V2k anyway?

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    This reminded me of something I've been noticing lately. A lot of cruiser riders don't seem to use the front brake at all. I have seen two, in the past two weeks alone, roll to a stop at a stop sign, using nothing but the rear brake at first, and then as they are almost stopped, they put both feet down and stop the bike with their FEET! This explains that funny little duck-walk thing you often see guys on cruisers doing at low speeds. Who taught these people how to ride?

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Quote Originally Posted by stoinkythepig View Post
    This reminded me of something I've been noticing lately. A lot of cruiser riders don't seem to use the front brake at all. I have seen two, in the past two weeks alone, roll to a stop at a stop sign, using nothing but the rear brake at first, and then as they are almost stopped, they put both feet down and stop the bike with their FEET! This explains that funny little duck-walk thing you often see guys on cruisers doing at low speeds. Who taught these people how to ride?
    I've seen the same thing. This cruiser rider users the front brake 90% of the time, paying close attention to road surface when doing so. Some people have never been taught to ride.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Maybe all you read was the headline....

    In actuality, the problem was that his rear brakes had not been reconnected by a shop that had changed his rear tire. When he came to a situation where he had to stop and he found he had no rear brakes he grabbed more front than he was used to and it sounds like the front wheel tucked...panic stop. The headline is the only place where it says anything about flipping so I'd say the moron is the editor/writer.

    All those who have never tucked the front from too much front brake raise your hands...

    Yeah...thats what I thought!


    (Stoopid writers...)

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Quote Originally Posted by g®eg View Post
    maybe you didn't read the article:



    that's his "claim"
    so......what are you saying? he's going to perjure himself?

    and not likely the shop "didn't reconnect" his rear brake, they just didn't pump it up. he really should learn how to ride. likely has a loud pipe to save his life instead.
    All those who THOUGHT they read the article but obviously missed the key point raise there hands...

    DUCDAVE raises his hand....

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    How fast was he merging onto an access road to cause all this damage?

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    So lemme get this straight, the rider has limited riding skills and is sueing because of it?

    That shit ain't right.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    So........

    what would you people do if you picked up your bike form the shop EXPECTING everything to work correctly...........get into a situation where you had to use the rear brakes and find out that they don't work?
    Some would grab more front, some may not, some may get into an accident, some may even lay it down.

    Point being, the shop should have checked the brake system, to make sure it worked properly before, calling the job done.

    So that being said, whether he flipped the bike or not, I think he has a legitimate claim.

    What would you do if your car had work done and you had no brakes or something else that cause the car to work improperly?

    So let's all just point fingers! It's much easier.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher Bergs View Post
    So lemme get this straight, the rider has limited riding skills and is sueing because of it?

    That shit ain't right.
    No..l think he's suing because the shop had limited repair skills....

    (But my reading comprehension is clearly limited so take my opinion as just that...)

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Saw this on another forum... What a joke! Should not even make it into court!

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Hmmm....if you had your furnace serviced and the first time it turned on afterward it blew up and burned down your house would you consider suing?

    Cus if you wouldn't you can bet your insurance company would....

    On the other hand, he appears to be trying to secure a nice retirement from this ...above and beyond actual costs incurred. I have mixed feelings about that kind of 'blood' money. And I don't really think there's enough information in the article to determine the degree of his suffering, etc. And penaltys for the dealer? For a bunch of folks that seem to believe that people should be held responsible for their actions you seem to be willing to give the shop a free skate....

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Quote Originally Posted by DucDave View Post
    No..l think he's suing because the shop had limited repair skills....

    (But my reading comprehension is clearly limited so take my opinion as just that...)
    There are many levels of incompetence being displayed, this we all agree on. Issue I have is, at no point in time did the customer need to use his brakes prior to the incident we're reading about? Obviously there was a breakdown in skillset at the shop itself but I'm wondering if this isn't an oppotunist-type lawsuit.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    I believe the shop is at fault here, but I believe that some of the responsibility lies with the rider as well. This is just an extension of the safety warnings we need to have on every single product because some retard used it in a manner it wasnt designed for and sued and got money for it.
    I'm positive it also says in his owners manual to check the brakes before every ride. I'm guessing he didnt follow instruction.

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    you guys are all missing the point.... The judge's name is Donald Floyd..... That's a funny name. He must be old.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Under the instruction and advice of a MA MSF instructor I am going to stop using my front brake. Thanks for the heads up Pete, you the man!

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
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    you guys are all missing the point.... The judge's name is Donald Floyd..... That's a funny name. He must be old.
    OOOHHHH....I get it now. Jokes about old people!!!


    wait...what?

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    Does nobody check there bike before taking possession from a repair shop? If I have work done, I would check the bike over before accepting it OR paying for it.

    YOU as a rider are responsible to do this BEFORE getting on a bike. It is just as much your responsibility as it is theirs!

    Guy is a fucking tool bag anyway you look at it!

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    he's probly going in hot and expect what his used to brake to work. stomp stomp... no worky... fuck! panic panic ... grab grab... oops!

    he might still have accident even with his usual working rear brake. who knows so the stupid shop is at fault at the moment.

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    ...wondering what the reaction on this forum would be if the guy had been on a Gixxer or Ducati.

    just a thought

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    Re: Whatever you do, don't use the front brakes.... they're dangerous

    I couldn't care less what someone rides. I'd still feel like it was a lawsuit of opportunity.

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