Some tool wads his bike on a group ride, you...

[teamcubco]

Karma.......it will bite you......Just do the right thing what ever it is!

[catamount]

Was anyone here on the VT long long long ride when the guy on the Monster balled it up on VT Rt 17? He went over the guardrail and was pretty badly injured.

He lived in RI and decided to try to make it home.

On the way home, he crashed getting off the interstate and this time it was worse. Unconscious and maybe broken bones.

I think he ended up okay but I hadn't heard much about him since.

This was a NESR "long long long" ride. Probably 2007 or something.

[seth399]

I went on one large group ride in my life and a guy wadded it into someones front yard. Most of us stopped and made sure he was ok, then continued on.

[Trouble]

I'd stop and help. Go home, get the truck, trailer, and tools, etc. I'd hope that someone would bail me out if I went down. I've done it before to help out friends as well as people I didn't know and I'd do it again.

[gadget]

One time at band camp the tuba player had kidney failure so not only did I give him one of mine but I had to do the operation myself.

[DucDave]

One time at band camp the tuba player had kidney failure so not only did I give him one of mine but I had to do the operation myself.

[Doc]

It's going to happen, probably more than once this season.

You're on a group ride, but not the leader/organizer. Somebody you don't know is riding over their limit and crashes. This rider showed up alone. They are banged up, perhaps with some road rash, and their bike is not rideable.

This is not an emergency medical situation.

What do you think your responsibilities are?

What have you done in the past?

Can I change my vote? I voted Superhero before I read the scenario.

As a Nurse/Medic my responsibilities are different. (I have a duty to respond) that said if they are an obvious tool I am slow to respond

Seeing as this is not an emergency medical situation I would still be concerned more with the rider than the bike.

If it is in my home area I would be trying to help coordinate bike and rider transport. Once the scene is clear I would continue on my ride.

[SteveM]

Interesting responses.

I meant "tool" as just another anonymous rider more than someone who had already been acting badly on the ride.

"responsibilities" was a bit strong, "obligation" is better, as someone suggested.

Personally, I've seen this happen on a group ride, but the rider wasn't a tool. She was a very nice person, learning to handle an EX500 and went into a corner a little hot, panicked and lowsided across the road.

Bike wasn't rideable and she was shaken, but not injured. We all stopped and made sure she was OK, made arrangements to leave the bike at a house where she crashed and she insisted on finishing the ride 2-up.

I started the poll because I was stunned at a comment in another thread that stated that the person was unaffected by someone else's crash.

We all might react differently and offer differing levels of help, but to be totally unaffected by a crash seems a bit of an exaggeration.

[Billy]

One time I left DBKromz in a parking lot with a flat tire, didn't feel bad about it though.

[obsolete]

(I have a duty to respond)

Is that VT law?

[FAST GSXR750]

One time at band camp the tuba player had kidney failure so not only did I give him one of mine but I had to do the operation myself.

[FAST GSXR750]

Is that VT law?

Don't know if it's law but i believe it's an oath you take as being a emt/medic. Think you can loose your certification if it is found you did nothing to help.

[Cheese]

Was anyone here on the VT long long long ride when the guy on the Monster balled it up on VT Rt 17? He went over the guardrail and was pretty badly injured.

He lived in RI and decided to try to make it home.

On the way home, he crashed getting off the interstate and this time it was worse. Unconscious and maybe broken bones.

I think he ended up okay but I hadn't heard much about him since.

This was a NESR "long long long" ride. Probably 2007 or something.

I was there. We zip tied his bike back together and rode him home as far as we could. Unfortunately the first crash did in his face shield so he had no choice but to ride open faced in sunglasses. Obviously between Rt. 17 and RI the sun went down and you can probably imagine what followed with a tired rider in sunglasses after dark. Lesson learned? A pair of clear safety glasses costs a couple bucks at Home Depot. Not a bad thing to toss in your tail or tank bag if you do long rides with only a tinted visor.

[mrezra]

I have run into this a lot more with (pedal) cyclists. I've stopped quite a few times to offer a hand to people I have seen broken down for various mechanical reason. If he/she is part of a group ride (bicycle or motorcycle), no excuse not to help out in my book.

[OreoGaborio]

Stay with the rider until you know they're taken care of and do what you can to make that happen. If that means ending your day, so be it.

[TIMMYDUCK]

I was out in the woods on my 4 wheeler ( Washington County, VT) Labor day of 08.

Got a call of a wrecked bike and injured rider on T#$#@* Rd in NY.

I left the woods , dropped the wheelers, ran over to NY picked up damaged bike and rider and drove them to New Haven, CT.

Oh, and then back home to VT.

Wasn't even on the ride and I was glad to have helped.

[ThisBitch]

This thread just ooozes with holier-than-thou.

Shut up, tool.

[mzdagrl]

Stay with the rider until you know they're taken care of and do what you can to make that happen. If that means ending your day, so be it.

Same here. Typically with a non-injury crash, that means the ride goes on.

I was on a DucDave ride last summer, the guy two in front of us (I was 2up with Rob) binned it. We stopped to get the rider up, get the bike out of the blind corner, and assess the situation. Once it was clear he could ride, we continued. A way down the road, he decided his pegs were too damaged to be comfortable and he let us know he was heading home. The ride continued another few hours.

I have also stopped in my car to make sure riders were ok when I see them on the side of the road. Typically, it's cruisers and I get a weird look and a scowling "We're fine." But you never know, the next time the person might not be ok.

[butcher bergs]

Shut up, tool.

The hell did I do to you??

Only group ride that I ever crashed on was with a group that was on a race track.

[The Snowman]

have you ever been riding and found a crashed rider? did you stop and offer help? if so, how is that any different from your group ride? if not, would you expect anyone to help you?

If it wee CBRKnight, he'd leave them to die.

[ThisBitch]

The hell did I do to you??

Only group ride that I ever crashed on was with a group that was on a race track.

I was being facetious, calm down tough guy

[butcher bergs]

I'm calm.

[KB]

I won't go on group rides anymore unless it's with a few guys that I know and know well and trust with my life 100%

[beet]

You stay till everything's OK. This includes @ least one of the group going to the hospital if that's the case. And yes I stop for all crashes even if its not my group. Try to help even with traffic! You don't want any one else getting run over!! This includes tools all though you will never hear the end of it.

[Jim]

One time I left DBKromz in a parking lot with a flat tire, didn't feel bad about it though.