Number plates

[Jim]

Is this different from last year?
I thought we were allowed 4" decals on the tail.
Are there any I4 bikes that could fit 6" decals in their tail?

18.1.3 All machines must have 3 sets of numbers;
one on the center front and one on both sides. Numbers must be a minimum of 6” high, be spaced 1/2” apart and allow 1/2” of background color (White for Novices and Experts and yellow for Amateurs). Side number plates
must be behind the rider on the machine’s tail section or on the lower fairing on the side of the machine. They must be visible when the rider is in position on the machine. If the front fairing
is broken by an air intake the number must be displayed on both sides of the machine. There are no exceptions to this rule. Riders should be aware that these requirements are that of LRRS and may not be accepted at any other CCS event.

[Degsy]

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Subscribed. This ought to be good.

[Degsy]

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Three 6" numbers on each side of the front fairing if it is broken by an air intake? Lol.

[union]

Nothing from this year but heres a shot from last year. 6 inch numbers. Its really not that difficult. They had the same rule last year that you guys cried about. They just didnt enforce it. Stop being a bitch.

[Johnny B]

This is the new wording you should be aware of:

"18.1.4 All sets of numbers displayed on a bike must match each other and must be the correct number for the rider. A bike may not have more than one rider number at anytime while on the track proper."

This rule was put in the book this year after several incidents where the rider was improperly identified while on track, specifically a Turn 12 crash where the side number was called in instead of the front plate. Anytime includes practice. I'm getting this out now instead of explaining it on Pit Lane.

[BrianC]

The only problem I have w/putting 6" numbers on the rear is that it doesn't "allow for 1/2" of background color"... if you look at James' plates, those numbers have to be cut down to size to fit and go right to the edge of the plates, which I guess technically should fail because they aren't allowing that 1/2" of background around the numbers. I can barely get 4" numbers to fit. I don't know what tech would prefer... 4" numbers that fit on the plate, or 6" numbers that need to be cut down to fit?

[union]

The only problem I have w/putting 6" numbers on the rear is that it doesn't "allow for 1/2" of background color"... if you look at James' plates, those numbers have to be cut down to size to fit and go right to the edge of the plates, which I guess technically should fail because they aren't allowing that 1/2" of background around the numbers. I can barely get 4" numbers to fit. I don't know what tech would prefer... 4" numbers that fit on the plate, or 6" numbers that need to be cut down to fit?

I passed tech every time. I didnt cut much off at all. Seriously its really not that difficult. If you give me an hour or so I can get a photo of this years tail.

[BrianC]

I passed every time too, but I hate that fear of the possibility they are going to get all "technical" on my ass! I'm keeping the 4", easy enough to slap some #'s on there if need be.

[The Snowman]

Almost the same as last year's rulebook. Number sizes were never 4". This was a CCS rule, I believe:

7.1.3
All machines must have numbers, one on the front and one on both sides. Numbers must be a minimum of 6” high, be spaced 1/2” apart and allow 1/2” of background color (White for Novices and Experts and yellow for Amateurs). Side number plates must be behind the rider on the machine’s tail section or on the lower fairing on the side of the machine. They must be visible when the rider is in position on the machine. If the front fairing is broken by an air intake the number must be displayed on both sides of the machine. (The riders left at Loudon) There are no exceptions to this rule. Riders should be aware that these requirements may not be accepted at any other CCS event.

[The Snowman]

2012 CCS rulebook:

5.3.6
Numbers must be black and approximately 8” high and 1” wide, of standard block lettering with no shading, outlining or serifs. Number must be spaced approximately 1” from each other as well as the edge of the plate or display area. 6” or 4” numbers may be used on the rear plates as long as the number is clearly visible at speed. All numbers on any display must be the same size.

[CBR929RE]

its also worded correctly this year unlike last year where it conflicted with itself.



there were also plenty of riders, especially on R6's that had just one number on the tail. I would assume that the powers that be would want some numbers on the side fairing if that's the case. you can do some on the back portion of the lower by your feet.

[Degsy]

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The only problem I have w/putting 6" numbers on the rear is that it doesn't "allow for 1/2" of background color"... if you look at James' plates, those numbers have to be cut down to size to fit and go right to the edge of the plates, which I guess technically should fail because they aren't allowing that 1/2" of background around the numbers. I can barely get 4" numbers to fit. I don't know what tech would prefer... 4" numbers that fit on the plate, or 6" numbers that need to be cut down to fit?

I passed tech every time. I didnt cut much off at all. Seriously its really not that difficult. If you give me an hour or so I can get a photo of this years tail.

Lol. So, basically you're saying that conforming to the rules is no problem providde you don't conform to the rules and just take a chance and hope tech lets you through. :-).

[Degsy]

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Almost the same as last year's rulebook. Number sizes were never 4". This was a CCS rule, I believe:

7.1.3
All machines must have numbers, one on the front and one on both sides. Numbers must be a minimum of 6” high, be spaced 1/2” apart and allow 1/2” of background color (White for Novices and Experts and yellow for Amateurs). Side number plates must be behind the rider on the machine’s tail section or on the lower fairing on the side of the machine. They must be visible when the rider is in position on the machine. If the front fairing is broken by an air intake the number must be displayed on both sides of the machine. (The riders left at Loudon) There are no exceptions to this rule. Riders should be aware that these requirements may not be accepted at any other CCS event.

4" numbers on the tail absolutely were legal in 2009 and 2010 I believe also.

[union]

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Lol. So, basically you're saying that conforming to the rules is no problem providde you don't conform to the rules and just take a chance and hope tech lets you through. :-).

eh?

[Jim]

I've been using 4" decals in both sides of my tail.

I as just curious if anyone else caught the 6" rule for this year.

And I did see the CCS rules already.

[hondarider102]

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Wasnt this same debate had last year?

[Johnny B]

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Wasn't this same debate had last year?

I've been watching this debate for 16 years.

[Degsy]

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Lol. So, basically you're saying that conforming to the rules is no problem providde you don't conform to the rules and just take a chance and hope tech lets you through. :-).

eh?

Well, the point was that the rules make it very difficult to conform. You said something to the effect of "it's possible, it just takes a litle work" and then posted a picture where the numbers aren't all 6" high and there isn't enough space around them. Then you said that you cut them to make them fit. So, you're not conforming to the rules as written.

Plus, you have a '1' in your number. Try conforming to the rules totally and having 888 as your number.

[csmutty]

Wow you guys need something to bitch about huh? Just put the damn numbers on already.

[Degsy]

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Typical nesr pit area. Make an observation or mention something that seems odd-you're a bitch.

You can't fit 2 10.5" X 7" rectangles on either the tail or the nose of an R6. I have seen people fail tech for not conforming and I think it's a legitimate concern. Plenty of people like to have a nice paint job and they deserve to know where they stand. It's not bitching and it's not unfounded.

Makes no difference to me. I don't race, but if I did, I'd want to know.

[union]

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Well, the point was that the rules make it very difficult to conform. You said something to the effect of "it's possible, it just takes a litle work" and then posted a picture where the numbers aren't all 6" high and there isn't enough space around them. Then you said that you cut them to make them fit. So, you're not conforming to the rules as written.

Plus, you have a '1' in your number. Try conforming to the rules totally and having 888 as your number.

Taking a bit off the corner of a number is a bit different then putting on a completely different size. I picked a number with a 1 in it intentionally to make it easier to put the proper size on my plates. Forgive me for putting a little forethought into racing instead of crying like a baby every year about the same thing. Looking over the thread from last year its the same people again.

It was written into the rule book last year 2011. Dont know why its an issue or a surprise this year.

[csmutty]

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Typical nesr pit area. Make an observation or mention something that seems odd-you're a bitch.

You can't fit 2 10.5" X 7" rectangles on either the tail or the nose of an R6. I have seen people fail tech for not conforming and I think it's a legitimate concern. Plenty of people like to have a nice paint job and they deserve to know where they stand. It's not bitching and it's not unfounded.

Makes no difference to me. I don't race, but if I did, I'd want to know.

Then put the 6" numbers on there to show them how ridiculous it is.

Or buy some numberplates from miles and ziptie them to the front fairing of the bike..problem solved.

[BrianC]

Yeah... I don't know how anything that anyone posted looks like bitching, but to answer Jim's questions about the # sizes, I'd say as a group we've reached the conclusion that the options are as follow: a.) you can take 6" numbers and cut em' down to 4" so they fit on your plates, or b.) put 4" numbers on . I think the only reason I went w/the 4" was because Street and Comp didn't have enough of the 6", and they told me the 4's would pass (on the rear)... they were right.

Just looking at my avatar pic., the dude behind me has like 3" numbers on the front and got thru tech!

[loudog]

6" on the tail is huge. I can see why they want larger numbers, but that doesn't seem to jive with the newer tails.

I'll be putting a single number on the tail, two on the sides, and one on the front. Like Brian, I don't want to have to worry about not passing tech.

[Degsy]

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Typical nesr pit area. Make an observation or mention something that seems odd-you're a bitch.

You can't fit 2 10.5" X 7" rectangles on either the tail or the nose of an R6. I have seen people fail tech for not conforming and I think it's a legitimate concern. Plenty of people like to have a nice paint job and they deserve to know where they stand. It's not bitching and it's not unfounded.

Makes no difference to me. I don't race, but if I did, I'd want to know.

Then put the 6" numbers on there to show them how ridiculous it is.

Or buy some numberplates from miles and ziptie them to the front fairing of the bike..problem solved.

Ok. Ziptied on number plates. That's the answer.
Close thread.
Lol.