Thank you to all NESR cornerworkers

[RyanNicholson]

Where and when did you go down?

lost the front in Turn 8 durring the dash for cash (race 13) on saturday.....hit the tire wall and landed in 9

[OreoGaborio]

holy cow, glad you're alright... that's a faaaast fuckin section.

How'd you manage to do that?

[RyanNicholson]

holy cow, glad you're alright... that's a faaaast fuckin section.

yup, sure is

thanks

i dunno exactly...i was goin over the hill, full lean comin around just before the apex of 8 and it just let go, smooth as shit....then i realized i was sliding like 100mph towards that short tire wall....then i flipped a couple times or something, and stopped just in time to see my bike flipping end over end into 9. i had visions of ambulance rides when i saw that tire wall coming.

[Rick Lee]

I don't mind doing it cause there have been plenty of times when there were others there to pick me up. It's nice to return the favorSee you kids in september!

[RyanNicholson]

yea i definitely want to cornerwork, maybe for some track days or something....i rarely get enough free time during a race weekend

[Awesome]

I've been too busy lately with racing all kinds of different classes and my sched being all over the place but I try to set my races so i can cornerwork for a while during the weekend.

[SarahLyndsey]

the first weekend i cornerworked they put me on pickup... i thought this was rediculous for two reasons:
1. there is no way i can pick up a bike, i weigh 118 lbs
2. in the cornerworker school, my instructor told us when a rider goes down, take off their helmet, unzip their leathers, talk to them, all that.

First of all, i have no medical experience whatsoever, and for ANYONE other than a trained medic to be touching the riders neck or spinal areas seems absolutely rediculous to me. I can understand keeping them calm, and waiting for the ambulance to get there. But it is unsafe for them to be moved around if they are seriosuly injured, where removing a helmet could only make matters worse .. and i want nothing to do with that

am i crazy or is this a legitimate concern?

[Awesome]

Who told you that and who gave you the task of picking up the bike, because they were both wrong.

[Puppet]

the first weekend i cornerworked they put me on pickup... i thought this was rediculous for two reasons:
1. there is no way i can pick up a bike, i weigh 118 lbs
2. in the cornerworker school, my instructor told us when a rider goes down, take off their helmet, unzip their leathers, talk to them, all that.

First of all, i have no medical experience whatsoever, and for ANYONE other than a trained medic to be touching the riders neck or spinal areas seems absolutely rediculous to me. I can understand keeping them calm, and waiting for the ambulance to get there. But it is unsafe for them to be moved around if they are seriosuly injured, where removing a helmet could only make matters worse .. and i want nothing to do with that

am i crazy or is this a legitimate concern?

That's absolutely a legitimate concern. No one other than trained medical personnel should move a person who isn't moving on their own...unless they are in immediate, grave danger. There are very few instances that I can think of where that would be the case in a controlled environment like this where you have other flags and workers to direct the riders. Also, by the time you get there, the most immediate danger should be gone (others riders who are right there when the first one goes down).

Unless the rider themselves can do it, leave all their gear in place until the EMT's get there, and even then, the only time you should do it is under their very specific instructions.

Now...if the rider is up and can get off to the side of the track, but isn't going to ride away, by all means, take their helmet, gloves, etc from them so they can cool down and relax while they're waiting for medical or a break on the track for them to get off.

And thanks again for enduring the heat to make sure we're safe!

[OreoGaborio]

I wouldn't even let a rider take it off themselves if they had a good head bashing. A buddy of mine suffered a broken neck & was incredibly close to being paralized, but he was able to take his bicycle helmet off himself & everything.

[SarahLyndsey]

Who told you that and who gave you the task of picking up the bike, because they were both wrong.

some older guy that taught the cornerworking school.... no idea what his name was

I wouldn't even let a rider take it off themselves if they had a good head bashing.

the one thing i DO know medically is that people DO go into shock when seriously injured and sometimes think that they are ok to move and whatnot

[reiobard]

lost the front in Turn 8 durring the dash for cash (race 13) on saturday.....hit the tire wall and landed in 9

I thought i recognized the number, i picked you up. and by the way your bike sucked to get down that hill with no brakes or clutch lever (any way to stop it on a downhill). How bad did the damage actually turn out to be.

[Adrenalinechic]

the first weekend i cornerworked they put me on pickup... i thought this was rediculous for two reasons:
1. there is no way i can pick up a bike, i weigh 118 lbs
2. in the cornerworker school, my instructor told us when a rider goes down, take off their helmet, unzip their leathers, talk to them, all that.

First of all, i have no medical experience whatsoever, and for ANYONE other than a trained medic to be touching the riders neck or spinal areas seems absolutely rediculous to me. I can understand keeping them calm, and waiting for the ambulance to get there. But it is unsafe for them to be moved around if they are seriosuly injured, where removing a helmet could only make matters worse .. and i want nothing to do with that

am i crazy or is this a legitimate concern?

you know whats funny about that...is that sandy told me not to do any of that lol.

she said, let the guys get the bike, make sure the rider is ok but dont take the helmet off.

....I'll be an RN in 3 months hahaha i know how to take a helmet off an injured rider!! EXCEPT i won't do it at the track b/c if you're not "employed" i could get my license revoked before i even got it you can still give chest compressions with a helmet on, God forbid.

[RyanNicholson]

I thought i recognized the number, i picked you up. and by the way your bike sucked to get down that hill with no brakes or clutch lever (any way to stop it on a downhill). How bad did the damage actually turn out to be.

that was you that came down the hill with me and the bike!? aw thanks man, haha yea it was pretty bad. destroyed the front end (forks, rim, etc) and obviously the tail section had seen better days....my ECU ended up in the field behind 9 apparently too. i listed out everything on the "any track news?" thread, but we got it back together for the next day.

again, thanks a ton....i'll have to buy you a beer sometime haha

[Loun]

For what its worth the part that you said about taking off their helmet and unzipping their suit... that is for the riders that are ok, you have THEM take off their helmet and unzip their suit if their bike is not ridable and they are sitting there with you so they dont over heat.. more than likely you only heard half of what they were saying or took something out of context.

From the USM corner working guide which states the opposite of what you were told, this is in the handout they give you:
US Marshalls Cornerworker's Guide
FIRST AID
If you have training in this area, feel free to use what you have learned. If you do not, then let common sense be your guide.

* Stay with an injured person until help arrives, continue to talk even if the person appears unconscious and check for breathing and bleeding.
* Ask simple questions: "What's your name? What day is it? Can you move your toes?"
* Do not let a combative rider back out into traffic.
* Do not hesitate to call for an ambulance if there is any question about the condition of the rider!
* NEVER MOVE AN UNCONSCIOUS RIDER OR ONE WHO CANNOT MOVE HIMSELF!
* Never remove a helmet unless you have received proper instruction!

[SarahLyndsey]

yep and i wouldnt make up some dude telling me to take off a guys helmet and unzipping leathers... leathers i can understand, maybe, but id rather not be the one to do it