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chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

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    chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    any input?

    EK/JT -$130 shipped on fleabay - not sure about quality

    JT/DID - $165 shipped on fleabay - read good reviews!

    drivesystems - $220+, local - excellent reviews!

    the bike is a 70hp 1995 FZR600 that I bought for cheap money, so I'm not looking to sink cash money into it. if anyone can confirm that the EK/JT is a a good enough option, I'm going for it once it re-lists on fleabay.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Either will be fine. Make sure its an oring.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Check out pbi sprockets

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    anyone know about RK 530 XSO chains?

    the website says it's suitable for street, and harleys...

    and it uses an RX-ring

    which, apparently takes longer to elongate than an o-ring chain



    I found new front and rear sprockets on fleabay, steel for around $35 total...now I just need a chain

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    DID ERV 3 (gold), can be found on eBay for a deal. Best chain for the $$ and proven. My engine builder saw slight power gains due to JUST the chain, and it's lack of friction. FWIW, I'm sold on em.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    nice, how does it rank for longevity?

    I actually shooting for value...I got a "performance" 520 chain w' lightweight aluminum rear sprocket, and in under 8k miles, it threw teeth, and ran out of adjustment...plus, bike is a 1995 FZR600 and haven't touched the valves since 2006 when I bought it (over 30,000 miles later)...power isn't a problem here

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Alloy sprockets will be the biggest issue with wear, but I am anticipating the chain to last at least a full season or two on my VFR400 race-bike, with steel sprockets. Regular cleaning and adjustment of your chain will always help preserve longevity.

    What sold me on these chains was *brand new* out of the box, if you let the chain hang down you can *feel* how much more freely the links move compared to say a brand new RK racing 520 chain. The difference is night and day, and as I said, my engine builder saw (IIRC) over a HP difference on the dyno literally only changing from an RK to the DID ERV3. Dealing with 60 HP bikes, that's nothing to scoff at!

    They are seeing over a season of racing on them no problem.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    nvm...I was gunning for the RK 530XSO chain with the RX ring (better than o-ring, but worse than XW ring posted above), and I found a new one on fleabay for $31.99 shipped, so I took it

    going to pair it with steel sprockets for another $55 or so, and I will have a full set of chain and sprockets for $85 + install (which I'll do myself)

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    i've had an RK break on me, been using DID ever since.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    which RK chain? GSV? SO? RSO? GXW? XSO?

    I'd only run the last 2 on a sport bike

    did you lube? adjust? how many miles until it was broke? track? street? was it worn when it broke?

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Jim uses extra lube for everything

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    which RK chain? GSV? SO? RSO? GXW? XSO?

    I'd only run the last 2 on a sport bike

    did you lube? adjust? how many miles until it was broke? track? street? was it worn when it broke?
    dont know the model, street only bike. the clip-on master is what actually broke. the chain had under 10k on it and was getting a bit dry. it just bought the bike from someone.
    now i use DID only and clean & lube it every 300 miles. been about 15k on my DID and needed one 1/4 turn adjustment.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    dont know the model, street only bike. the clip-on master is what actually broke. the chain had under 10k on it and was getting a bit dry. it just bought the bike from someone.
    now i use DID only and clean & lube it every 300 miles. been about 15k on my DID and needed one 1/4 turn adjustment.
    I swap gearing so often I never know if my chain stretches haha.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    ya...too many variables to blame all RK chains

    I'm in it...going to see how long it lasts

    but my bike has a ton of miles with zero internal engine maintenance...this might be the last set of chain and sprockets this bike ever sees..

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    here we are a year later...the RK 530 "XSO" stretch cycle is starting to begin again...

    it's also developing some tight and weak spots (which you can hear/feel when you ride)...but they go away with a generous lubing...so I'm not cleaning, but I'll put the teflon spray on about once a week...or once every couple weeks.

    only this time around I've adjusted it maybe 1-2 times in the last 5,000 miles or so, so it might be a rocked out rear suspension squishing too much and stretching the chain, or it could just be a chain...I'm guessing rocked out rear suspension

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    too many clutched whoolies

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    it might be a rocked out rear suspension squishing too much and stretching the chain
    Your chain shouldn't be pulled tight no matter WHAT the rear suspension is doing. That's the whole point of adjusting the chain so that there's slack through the entire suspension range.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    whaat...buy clayton said suspension!!!

    okay...well I'm done adjusting chains...that' fo' sho'...m gonna lube it up again and keep going...bike's gotta conk out any day now...dunno how it keeps running

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Not to highjack the original thread but...clip style master vs rivet style. As i don't have a chain tool it requires a trip to the shop or at least trying to borrow a tool. I HATE borrowing tools. Any bad experience with clip type? I do a bunch of track days.

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    Quote Originally Posted by FAST GSXR750 View Post
    Not to highjack the original thread but...clip style master vs rivet style. As i don't have a chain tool it requires a trip to the shop or at least trying to borrow a tool. I HATE borrowing tools. Any bad experience with clip type? I do a bunch of track days.
    Some people use safety wire instead of a clip, like so:

    Attachment 37326 or chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems-50766d1345607259-chain-pop-disconnect-fail

    Others use a dab of silicone on the clip to help security, like so:

    Attachment 37325


    Others still don't do a damn thing... like me. I just check it periodically but I've never had a problem (DID ERV3)

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    Re: chain & sprockets: EK vs. JT/DID vs. Drivesystems

    I'd only use a rivet type but that's just me. if you're worried put the clip type on and bring a rivet type to the track. I'm sure someone will have a tool you can use. post up before you go asking someone to bring one. I can always bring mine if we're gonna be at the same days.

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