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    Re: what really happens to the oil

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    Pssst... post #7... good reading...


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    Re: what really happens to the oil

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    You can all stop being such pussies and just get some electric gear and not put the bike away for the winter.
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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Pssst... post #7... good reading...
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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    yep
    me too. I start the bike every two weeks and run for 10 mins
    yep. and i have just over 3000 on my oil. not worried about it. ill get to it in the spring

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    yep
    me too. I start the bike every two weeks and run for 10 mins
    I ride at least once a week, last week, I got in over 500 miles, been averaging about 300/week since I put my winter tires on and had my 30k service 5 weeks ago

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I ride at least once a week, last week, I got in over 500 miles, been averaging about 300/week since I put my winter tires on and had my 30k service 5 weeks ago
    still riding.. most every day to work ..

    i put stabul in my girls bike and put it on the tender. race bike got stabul, radiator drain and the tender.. none of the rest have fuel in the or batteries so they are as they are.
    changing oil seems excessive to me.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Old oil left in a motor can cause damage to bearings as well i had a couple of main bearing failures that were traced back to chemical etching of the bearing race. The race then fretts (flakes) and self destructs.

    How old is too old an oil? I think it depends on so many factors, blow-by being the main one. In a motor that turns the oil dark soon I would change the oil sooner. I have seen some bikes go 5000 miles and have the oil look new. This is not a typical track bike, hard use needs more/sooner changes.

    If the oil is pretty fresh and looks so you are "probably" safe. if your new oil looks black I would change it as cheap insurance. When spring hits I would take the bike out and ride it as the oil has been not used while sitting.

    ooops! time to change my oil.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny View Post
    So if I leave oil (full synthetic) with 1000 miles on it in my bike for the winter what happens that is bad?

    will the bike grow a third cylinder?
    Nothing! As long as ....................

    You make sure the last time you ride it - do at least 30 miles to get it hot (out-gas all the bad caustic shit...)

    The worst thing is to start once in a while....

    (I have stored bikes for years this way - as well as some fogging oil in the motor, lots of stabil - full tank etc).

    Today's pump gas has enough detergent stuff to protect your upper cylinder wintering-over - but stabl in the fuel is a must

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Just in case mine gets a squirt of fogging oil down the filler and run for a bit to distribute.

    I still like to just put in cheap dyno oil and a new filter for the winter and leave the plastic off

    then after a short run or 2 in the spring

    I just change oil to synthetic leaving the filter of last fall

    gixer 13K never used a drop of anything

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Question for those who change oil frequently:

    How many miles do you intend to put on your bikes?

    Shocking as it may seem, these engines are actually designed to operate just fine with used motor oil. Unless you change your oil every time you shut your engine off, you are using the dreaded used motor oil practically all the time too.

    I kept my last bike until it had 100,000+ miles and my current bike has about 70,000 miles. Both had/have oil changes every 6000 miles or so with no special oil changes prior to storage and both ran/run fine. The valves wear out faster than the bearings or rings on my motorcycle engines.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by stoinkythepig View Post
    Question for those who change oil frequently:

    How many miles do you intend to put on your bikes?

    Shocking as it may seem, these engines are actually designed to operate just fine with used motor oil. Unless you change your oil every time you shut your engine off, you are using the dreaded used motor oil practically all the time too.

    I kept my last bike until it had 100,000+ miles and my current bike has about 70,000 miles. Both had/have oil changes every 6000 miles or so with no special oil changes prior to storage and both ran/run fine. The valves wear out faster than the bearings or rings on my motorcycle engines.
    I follow the recommended maintenance schedule in the owners manual, 100% dealer service, my SV made it to 135k, loose valve guides, stretched cam chains, consumed oil co-incidental with long interstate rides, never regular til the last 3000-4000 miles, when it was smokin was just startups and near redline acceleration and throttle chops

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I ride at least once a week, last week, I got in over 500 miles, been averaging about 300/week since I put my winter tires on and had my 30k service 5 weeks ago
    Jees Randy...you've got 30k on the Strom already? Hardcore.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    The flip side is also changing the oil too often.
    next time you change oil watch how long it takes to get your oil pressure light to turn off.

    On a Ducati it is quite a while. A lot of owners do 1000 mile changes (trying to help their bike) , Multiply the time the oil pressure is low times the number of oil changes in 10,000 miles and you could be doing more harm than good.

    Again as most oil gurus will tell you the oil is more than up to the task to long intervals, as long as you are using a good oil to begin with. Where the concern with old oil comes from is what else has made its way into the oil with use.

    I have seen plenty of motors that have seen nothing but abuse, some never have a problem. That does not mean I am going to ride around with my oil pressure light on and not check it out. hanging your oil is something most home mechanics can do and I very much believe it can be cheap insurance.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    6000 mile intervals with synthetic oil changes
    ride the fucking thing year round
    almost 60k on it and still not using oil

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    Quote Originally Posted by ducvet View Post
    The flip side is also changing the oil too often.
    next time you change oil watch how long it takes to get your oil pressure light to turn off.
    If it's physically possible with the style of oil filter you use, you may be able to fill the new filter with oil prior to installing it; in some cases, this will dramatically shorten the low-pressure startup time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbroderick
    Quote Originally Posted by ducvet View Post
    The flip side is also changing the oil too often.
    next time you change oil watch how long it takes to get your oil pressure light to turn off.
    If it's physically possible with the style of oil filter you use, you may be able to fill the new filter with oil prior to installing it; in some cases, this will dramatically shorten the low-pressure startup time.
    Flip side: trying to prime a pumpthat is not submerged while trying to pump air through an oil filled filter can air-lock your lubricating system completely preventing the pump from ever priming until you loosrn the ilter and start it.
    Trust me on this.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    +1
    you never want to cram too much oil in the filter. even with a partially filled filter it takes longer to get pressure than I would like.

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    Re: what really happens to the oil

    now that I think about it probably worse to have me throw the thing on its side once in a while... lol
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