Foot Placement.....Help

[brendanp]

Here's more:
Your boot sole is not often flat on the footpeg, rather the end of your footpeg should be the point of contact to the sole of your boot.

Exactly why I got a hole wearing thru in that spot. The rest of my Sidi's are perfect.

[Crash Dummy Denno]

it happens because your leg rotates as well

[Pigman]

chris and I were having this exact conversation at NJMP and I do what you're explaining Ken, not neccessarily on purpose but chris asked me to hop on his bike and show him how i lean off - i guess it just happens - in all honesty I thought i was doing something wrong because it looks odd when not moving

Yea, its a hard thing to visulize and get down but I saw a pic of your feet and could tell it was a lot closer than mine and you don't look like Dumbo with his feet out like me????


I did a thing where you can sit on the bike put the middle of your foot on the peg and then rotate you knee out....so does your foot

If you are on the balls of your feet... then the toe and foot doesn't follow but just Pivot's heel comes in and touches the plate.....

[Pigman]

Exactly why I got a hole wearing thru in that spot. The rest of my Sidi's are perfect.

U suck

[Pigman]

it happens because your leg rotates as well

U right Homie.....U can clearly see ur barely on the peg but def up tight



Thanks dude I can see the light.........

[Crash Dummy Denno]

U right Homie.....U can clearly see ur barely on the peg but def up tight



Thanks dude I can see the light.........

thank ken, not me

im just really photogenic...

[CEO]

Yeah based on what Denno and I talked about, what Ken said, the pics, etc... I do know where my foot should be but in reality I put it up and out of the way more than it needs to be... this adds discomfort and decreases endurance...

I don't think any of my pics really show how far I move it up though it's too dark in that region when the bike is leaned over.

[ThisBitch]

Thanks Denno!

[CEO]

Actually I think you can kind of see in this photo that Denno has his out on the peg a bit more whereas I tuck mine up VERY far... (part of what looks like my boot isn't actually, it's the spools and chain adjusters)

I have always just been worried about dragging toes and it causing the rear to unweight or something

edit: also, the guy on the FZ1 is showing you what not to do with your feet

[Crash Dummy Denno]

Basically I position my foot so that my toe slider would drag JUST after the peg would drag... that way the peg is the limiting factor.

the peg (HARD PART) is a bad limiting factor - the toe is NOT a hard part, good limiting factor, like a knee

[Paul_E_D]

That position gives good traction on the peg, but when you want to carry really big corner speed and lean angle, your foot is in the way, and it needs to get tucked in tighter against the frame. I definitely use that position, but if I rode like that through T2 or T9 at Loudon, half my foot would be gone.

IMO one should do what is necessary to gain the clearance you need. Thinking too much about it won't help.

[CEO]

^oooo maybe I should be teaching denno about foot positioning

[Crash Dummy Denno]

paul will disagree if you tell him the sky is blue... lol

whatever works, not saying its the only way chris - i actually have toe drag in T6 for whatever reason

[Paul_E_D]

paul will disagree if you tell him the sky is blue... lol

whatever works, not saying its the only way chris

It's Green!

I am disagreeable, but was my post not inclusive of your technique?

[CEO]

When it all comes down to it, I have a lot more problems to work on than foot positioning lol... but this type of talk is interesting and will hopefully help the loooooooong winter go by....

[Ken C]

There are exceptions...always. I was dragging my toe during one particularly fast session last week in NJ. This really wasn't a problem, as Denno says; the foot is flexible. If you were at race pace on a 125 (which Paul is accustomed to), then by all means, you would have to find a poaition that gets your foot out of the way! Paul, did you have trouble on Tyler's 636?

[Paul_E_D]

No, But I really haven't pushed a 600 to the limit in terms of corner speed. Perhaps they are so wide it's not possible to lean far enough to have this issue?

[Pigman]

thank ken, not me

im just really photogenic...

Ken is a Track Guru...I can only wish to have half of his wisdom in the few years I have left riding....


and yes the camera LoVES U Denno for sure...but Kiddy porn doesn't count

[Crash Dummy Denno]

It's Green!

I am disagreeable, but was my post not inclusive of your technique?

No, it was - I'm just busting on yah a bit - when it comes down to it, there is more than one way to skin a cat and the variables involved leave no distinct answer



lets talk about the outside foot position, seriously - I dont like hooking my heel on the peg as i cant seem to move as fluidly in a quick flip - im still on the ball of my foot, just i pull up to the foot bracket

ken, paul, ceo, piggy?

[CEO]

No, But I really haven't pushed a 600 to the limit in terms of corner speed. Perhaps they are so wide it's not possible to lean far enough to have this issue?

On my R6 with woodcraft rearsets... if you are dragging the footpegs I would imagine that you are either crashing or really fucking fast...

[Crash Dummy Denno]

On my R6 with woodcraft rearsets... if you are dragging the footpegs I would imagine that you are either crashing or really fucking fast...

dragged em on my 636 - i crashed, the race before i was draggin toe and never made an adjustment...

[CEO]

lets talk about the outside foot position, seriously - I dont like hooking my heel on the peg as i cant seem to move as fluidly in a quick flip - im still on the ball of my foot, just i pull up to the foot bracket

ken, paul, ceo, piggy?

Denno I am on the ball of my foot on the outside as well... it looks like we both do pretty much the same thing with the outside foot except you are a little more on the ball of your foot than me (me on your bike, you on mine):





I am not sure if this is correct but it's comfortable for me.

People have told me that you should have the sole of your foot or slightly farther back on the peg in order to press out on it and 'feel what the rear tire is doing' but I am not sure if that would be comfortable for me and/or be necessary at my skill level.

dragged em on my 636 - i crashed, the race before i was draggin toe and never made an adjustment...

I think my rearsets/pegs are a little higher than on your 636 though... not sure.

[Ken C]

I use the stock 636 pegs (fold, please). So, I suspect my pegs are a bit lower than Woodcrafts. I even have the peg feelers on, and I rarely touch them. My boot touches first.

Outside foot placement depends on whether I'm shifting mid-corner. The ideal placement is with the peg at the ball of my foot so I can straighten my ankle to press my knee into the gas tank for support.

[Ken C]

Ken is a Track Guru...I can only wish to have half of his wisdom in the few years I have left riding....

You embarrass me.

Seriously, there are a lot of guys who know more than I do about the ultra-complex aspects of track riding. I just have a lot of track experience, I think about it a lot and try real hard to convey in a clear way what I do know (hopefully to those that want to hear it).

[Pigman]

No, it was - I'm just busting on yah a bit - when it comes down to it, there is more than one way to skin a cat and the variables involved leave no distinct answer



lets talk about the outside foot position, seriously - I dont like hooking my heel on the peg as i cant seem to move as fluidly in a quick flip - im still on the ball of my foot, just i pull up to the foot bracket

ken, paul, ceo, piggy?

Yea, the pics say it all.....keeping the balls of your feet over the peg is where its at. If look close you can see my foot placement is Below the A-star symbol on the shoe...


here is my boot and the toe gaurd or what is left of it...

I can buy magnesium ones but i don't think they will fly with Tony..due to sparks