Foot Placement.....Help

[Doc]

Pigman... Not to pick but in your Avatar you could loosen up in the arms a bit too.

[Pigman]

Pigman... Not to pick but in your Avatar you could loosen up in the arms a bit too.

No...I need the help



Yea, I tried to be more in the tuck and loose last time out...I appreciate the help and would love to get a few laps on Video and get some feed back.See where I can improve..I will post the last track day pic as soon as I get it. I really want to Learn more so any advice is Greatly appreciated...


shawn

[OreoGaborio]

Someone out there must have a good action photo showing this??

OHHHH fiiiine... HIGH RES!!!

www.cheapbastidracing.com/media/feet.JPG



... this actually shows my foot fully tucked against the frame, not on the end of the footpeg... which is where I usually end up while on the SV with its more up & back rearsets.

You can also see I usually end up more on my toes than the ball of my foot.

[Ken C]

No...I need the help



Yea, I tried to be more in the tuck and loose last time out...I appreciate the help and would love to get a few laps on Video and get some feed back.See where I can improve..I will post the last track day pic as soon as I get it. I really want to Learn more so any advice is Greatly appreciated...


shawn

We usually do a body position seminar between the two days during the two day TTD events. If we haven't done it recently it's because it wasn't apparent that there was much demand for it.

As far as learning goes, keep an ear out for an off-season seminar or two. There will be one on traction management and perhaps I will add a body position seminar to the schedule.

[Paul_E_D]

outside foot, ball. I can't reach far enough to put my arch down.

[a13x]

I posted a pic on PAGE 1 showing what Denno ended up yapping about pretty clearly I thought. In case it wasn't clear enough.

Red = peg
Green = sole
Blue = toe slider

[a13x]

Pete our FEET look identical.

[CEO]

outside foot, ball. I can't reach far enough to put my arch down.

I think I am in a similar boat since I have a short inseam, I know you do as well.

Chris: You look like you are too much on your toes.

You mean on the outside foot? Are you sure? Those two pictures I posted were Denno on my bike, and Me riding his bike...?

[OreoGaborio]

Pete our FEET look identical.

I've got hairy hobbit feet.

[Ken C]

Here are a couple of photos showing where the footpeg end contacts my sole and my outside foot placement.

[Pigman]

Here are a couple of photos showing where the footpeg end contacts my sole and my outside foot placement.

Yea, I saw BrendanP's and it was the same witch brought this Q up. I was told to be slightly behind the Balls of your feet..Clearly you are a bit past..and out.

[brendanp]

Yea, I saw BrendanP's and it was the same witch brought this Q up. I was told to be slightly behind the Balls of your feet..Clearly you are a bit past..and out.

I'll post up a pic of my sole tonight...

and it is which, not witch... you got Halloween on your brain?

[Pigman]

I'll post up a pic of my sole tonight...

and it is which, not witch... you got Halloween on your brain?

No, I am Illiterate and can't spell for chit…..what you didn’t read my post....

[brendanp]

Pigman... Not to pick but in your Avatar you could loosen up in the arms a bit too.

Actually, he looks scared shit. I would be too! It was raining that day!

[QuarterGig]

GAH why coulden't we have this thread mid season when i could work on this stuff. This is fantastic information.. Thanks guys.

[Sheppo]

Here are a couple of photos showing where the footpeg end contacts my sole and my outside foot placement.

what's interesting to me ( a noob ) is, with both feel you don't cover the shift lever or the brake. My assumption is you would move your foot to use either?

I am learning a lot this is great.

[Pittenger5]

These things have brakes you can work with your feet?

Apparently Im still just off to what all the fast guys do, I dunno if its a good thing or not, but I just dont have the ground clearance to keep my feet that far on the end of the peg.
Pete you ever have that problem on your EX?

[ThisBitch]

what's interesting to me ( a noob ) is, with both feel you don't cover the shift lever or the brake. My assumption is you would move your foot to use either?

I am learning a lot this is great.

What I do is move my foot long enough to shift (I never touch the rear brake, either on the track or really on the street, save for emergency stops) and then move it back to the ball of my feet. We're mostly discussing foot placement in corners, so shifting and/or braking will (hopefully) not be necessary.

[Sheppo]

What I do is move my foot long enough to shift (I never touch the rear brake, either on the track or really on the street, save for emergency stops) and then move it back to the ball of my feet. We're mostly discussing foot placement in corners, so shifting and/or braking will (hopefully) not be necessary.

I understand this is cornering and the lack of back brake usage, just making a note. I am sure the foot doesn't shift from one place to the other for straight vs corners.

This is teaching and old dog ( or doug ) new tricks

[Pittenger5]

I am sure the foot doesn't shift from one place to the other for straight vs corners.

Your foot moves simply because body position dictates. On the straight all the weights (theoretically) on your ass and at least evenly divided between both feet. The second you hit a corner EVERYTHING in that equation changes, most if not all your weight goes to a foot, with the weight balance thrown off, so you need to change position a bit if for nothing else than your body is now in a different postion and the mechanics of your body changes.

[RyanNicholson]

its pretty self explanatory...doesn't require much thinking on how its done. Just need to ride on the balls of your feet, to get your knee out your foot needs to rotate a bit, thus moving it out on the peg to give it room to do so is necessary.

keep in mind that over thinking minor things eats up a lot of your $10 worth of attention that could be spent on more important things

[Sheppo]

Your foot moves simply because body position dictates. On the straight all the weights (theoretically) on your ass and at least evenly divided between both feet. The second you hit a corner EVERYTHING in that equation changes, most if not all your weight goes to a foot, with the weight balance thrown off, so you need to change position a bit if for nothing else than your body is now in a different postion and the mechanics of your body changes.

Exactly. I understand that!

[ThisBitch]

its pretty self explanatory...doesn't require much thinking on how its done. Just need to ride on the balls of your feet, to get your knee out your foot needs to rotate a bit, thus moving it out on the peg to give it room to do so is necessary.

keep in mind that over thinking minor things eats up a lot of your $10 worth of attention that could be spent on more important things

Well... for myself... I found that I made the most progress when I slowed down and worked on one thing until it was second nature. I know foot placement makes sense to you because you've done it for so long, but it baffles me. Probably because I have huge feet.

[Pittenger5]

So what advantage does putting your foot at the end of the peg offer? Like I said I tend to have my foot essentially on the frame, do you get more leverage or anything with it out, or is it more personal preference.

[Ken C]

It provides very firm contact and is at a point in the foot where feel is quite sensitive.

I've positioned my feet in several different ways depending on the bike I'm on and the amount of ground clearance i have. There is really no right or wrong way. The point is to keep your foot out of harm's way and to allow firm contact for easy movement and for weighting the pegs as necessary.