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    Re: heated gear?

    I'm still trying to figure out the pitfalls of motorcycle electronics. But I have seen some suggest that the simple 'shunt' style regulators on most of these bikes actually work better when loaded up. I imagine there is some tipping point.

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    Re: heated gear?

    I did it. I took the plunge.
    Fuck you, new enough, and your constant smoking deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    constant smoking deals.
    pun intended?

    let's hope those gloves don't smoke...

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    Re: heated gear?

    I will fuck you and your silly jinxes right up.

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    Re: heated gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    first ride on "hi" they took a little while to heat up...so I though "meh, they're just lukewarm"...but on my return trip the clip ons were already warmed (?) so it got nice and toasty quickly
    How hot they get will also depend on the thickness of the grips. On my V-Strom, which had relatively thin grips, they got really hot on high. On my Tiger, which has much thicker grips, they get very warm but not nearly as hot as on the Strom.

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    Re: heated gear?

    If I had to guess, I'd call them thin...they're also oem for an older sportbike...can't imagine they would invest in thick rubber

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    I will fuck you and your silly jinxes right up.
    Now things are really heating up!!

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    Re: heated gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out the pitfalls of motorcycle electronics. But I have seen some suggest that the simple 'shunt' style regulators on most of these bikes actually work better when loaded up. I imagine there is some tipping point.
    The tipping point is when the charging system output voltage drops too low to keep the battery charged. That's when the load is so big that the shunt carries no current and the alternator can't produce the current required by the load. There's never a bad reason to load up the charging system to the point that the shunt is not used, as long as the voltage remains high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoinkythepig View Post
    The tipping point is when the charging system output voltage drops too low to keep the battery charged. That's when the load is so big that the shunt carries no current and the alternator can't produce the current required by the load. There's never a bad reason to load up the charging system to the point that the shunt is not used, as long as the voltage remains high enough.
    definitely. i love my ecliptech shiftlight (i use it as a tach) for that reason if the volts get too low (or too high) it starts yelling at me.

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    LI'm thinking of getting that led gadget bubba linked to to tell me if the voltage is getting too low

    But I had my first 40 min ride in high 40's/low 50's today...I liked the feeling of heat so much I was squeezing the bars more than usual, haha

    But they're awesome...I could finally feel my hands at the end of the ride...however like any electronics, I noticed that the higher the rpm's (and voltage), the warmer they were

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    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post

    But I had my first 40 min ride in high 40's/low 50's today...I liked the feeling of heat so much I was squeezing the bars more than usual, haha
    That's still summer glove weather! Christ, I wont even have my jacket liner in yet.

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    Re: heated gear?

    Considering I bumped this, I might as well update. I took the plunge and ordered a last-years'-model Gerbing's jacket and a Firstgear controller and pair of gloves the other night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Considering I bumped this, I might as well update. I took the plunge and ordered a last-years'-model Gerbing's jacket and a Firstgear controller and pair of gloves the other night.
    I don't know anyone that ever regretted buying heated gear. Stuff is awesome. I love that I had to turn mine down yesterday because I was getting too hot riding in 39 degree drizzle.

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    Re: heated gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    pfft... you're just fussy because hands are just cold...go get those heated gloves already!

    but that's what I thought...the instructions say "The Throttle side heater is installed on the throttle sleeve under the rubber cover."

    first ride on "hi" they took a little while to heat up...so I though "meh, they're just lukewarm"...but on my return trip the clip ons were already warmed (?) so it got nice and toasty quickly//
    Some models have higher putput for the left side, which is not insulatd, while the right side plastic tube stays warm.

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    Re: heated gear?

    I have Renthal 755's (aluminum) on the a Tiger. I was going to buy the 1" model and put an insulating sleeve over them but Hot Grips says:

    NOT for aluminum handlebars, as the aluminum acts like a heat sink, drawing away much of the heat. Filling aluminum handlebars with ANY form of insulation is virtually ineffective.
    Anyone try this?

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    Re: heated gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    That's still summer glove weather! Christ, I wont even have my jacket liner in yet.
    I put mine in a couple weeks ago for one ride (out first frost actually 5am ride south to CT where it was even colder) but I took it back out, still wearin summer gloves as well, but I do have heated grips

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    Re: heated gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    I have Renthal 755's (aluminum) on the a Tiger. I was going to buy the 1" model and put an insulating sleeve over them but Hot Grips says:



    Anyone try this?
    I've had grip warmers on aluminum bars before. No problem. You have some type of wind deflector for your hands right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    I have Renthal 755's (aluminum) on the a Tiger. I was going to buy the 1" model and put an insulating sleeve over them but Hot Grips says...

    Whatever grip heaters you want to use will work fine on aluminum bars if you insulate them first. My Tiger has an aluminum bar, I wrapped the clutch end of it in two layers of electrical tape, one plastic and one cloth, then put the Symtec heater element over that and the grip over everything. Works great.

    But that layer of insulation between the bar and the heater element is critical, or yes, the bar will just turn into a big heatsink.

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    Re: heated gear?

    With a 3D printer we can make a custom sleeve that is 7/8ths ID and 1" OD. Just wanted to see if anyone else made it work.

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    That spacer idea seems like overkill. With 1" OD you'll need two sets of grips so you can use two throttle side grips. Why not just wrap the bar? I used oversized heat shrink insulation, which was included in the kit I bought.

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    Come to think of it, I don't think I've had heated grips NOT on aluminum bars. I just gave a couple turns of electrical tape, as mark mentioned. Let's not overthink this...

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    Re: heated gear?

    With 2 Kids and a travelling wife I am unable to make time for longer rides this year but still commute to work and take a few liberties with my lunch break. Most of my solo rides these days are no longer than 30 minutes and I can't really justify spending too much on heated gear at the moment.
    I do however want to buy a decent pair of winter gloves, may be heated ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Considering I bumped this, I might as well update. I took the plunge and ordered a last-years'-model Gerbing's jacket and a Firstgear controller and pair of gloves the other night.
    How do you like the Firstgear gloves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    That spacer idea seems like overkill. With 1" OD you'll need two sets of grips so you can use two throttle side grips. Why not just wrap the bar? I used oversized heat shrink insulation, which was included in the kit I bought.
    That's a good idea in that I have several lengths of large OD heat shrink for tennis rackets, and I don't play anymore. But the 3DP parts would only be a couple bucks each anyway.

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    Re: heated gear?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karate.Snoopy View Post
    How do you like the Firstgear gloves?
    Too soon to tell. I'm not even sure they've been shipped to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Too soon to tell. I'm not even sure they've been shipped to me.
    ohh haha..... alright dude, will wait on your review

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    I wouldn't wait for a review from me. My season is basically over, despite buying this gear.

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