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Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by jcbell1007 View Post
    First time ever tearing into carbs, cleaning carbs, etc... I've never been exposed to this before and was grateful for the help. I'm not surprised that I may have missed or muffed something up. thank you again for trying to correct this for me.

    No worries brother. I told you... all part of the deal.

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    I bet this would have been easier if the was a local shop that would let you work on your bike in there space. Hum.... maybe someone should open one up. Doc

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by BLACK SQUIRREL View Post
    Let me guess you got it from DOC

    I just got Nuethunder (from DOC) running like a top last night.

    Not Timing, Just carbs.
    Make sure you good good flow from all ports. Gas sitting around for a year can easily plug up things.
    Clear jets
    Clear Carb filters
    Smooth action on the float bowl. Before buttoning it up.
    A/F 2.5 turns out
    E clip in the middle on the needle
    Make sure the diaphragm is correctly seated! You will have to push up the diaphragm from the needle side so the diaphragm rubber in concave. Make sure the rubber lip is completely in the groove all the way around.
    8"-9" diaphragm spring!

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post

    I just got Nuethunder (from DOC) running like a top last night.

    Not Timing, Just carbs.
    Make sure you good good flow from all ports. Gas sitting around for a year can easily plug up things.
    Clear jets
    Clear Carb filters
    Smooth action on the float bowl. Before buttoning it up.
    A/F 2.5 turns out
    E clip in the middle on the needle
    Make sure the diaphragm is correctly seated! You will have to push up the diaphragm from the needle side so the diaphragm rubber in concave. Make sure the rubber lip is completely in the groove all the way around.
    8"-9" diaphragm spring!
    I know all this!


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    You trained me! Now I just have to train Jason correctly.

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    KB's got no RYTHYM

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    You trained me! Now I just have to train Jason correctly.
    Do I have to go up there and kick some but?


    I'll see you Monday Jason...

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    I wish a little carb cleaning was all the world needed to be RIGHT

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    Originally Posted by hammadown .....
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    If even Zip Tie Alley says, "no you shouldn't use a zip tie on that" you REALLLLLLY shouldn't use a zip tie on that! lol

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    Fixed. Will post homage to doc later tonight.

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by jcbell1007 View Post
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    Fixed. Will post homage to doc later tonight.
    Give us the cliff note version.

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Clogged 45's replaced with clean 42's, Funky short spring in rear cylinder replaced with stock stretched spring. Screws to 3 turns out. Float needles cleaned and floats eyeballed...


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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Clogged 45's replaced with clean 42's, Funky short spring in rear cylinder replaced with stock stretched spring. Screws to 3 turns out. Float needles cleaned and floats eyeballed...



    All you had to say was see #28


    Great job. Now button it up and get on it.

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall



    always knew DOC would work better under pressure (of friendly ridicule)

    u DOC

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    Originally Posted by hammadown .....
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    For the record I showed Jason how to work the carbs ONCE and only once. (My bad)

    He missed some stuff. I found it. Case closed.

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    My Mother hit me ONCE ..... ONCE

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    so what doc said up above. now that the carbs are cleaned the right way, its good to go. rear cylinder is firing great, starts up so much easier now and rpm's drop like they should.

    spent the day trying to button everything up. changed the oil, doc fixed/cleaned the carbs, fit the tail and tail support was fabbed up quickly by me. checked the front brakes and bled again, bought some stuff for the front number plate, and lastly, got it out of doc's hawk shop and dropped it off at my wife's friends place to have the rear frame tab welded for the rearset.

    track-bound in 4 days

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    what my hawk looks like, almost all buttoned up when I dropped it off tonight.


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    Very cool...can't wait to see it at the track

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    Who da man?

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    Re: Rear Cylinder firing off??? and RPM's slow to fall

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Who da man?

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