Upgrading 1st Gen SV throttle/switches with MotionPro throttle & 2nd Gen Switches

[CBR929RE]

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Nice clean work Chuck. Never undersdtood the 1/5 turn throttle need though. All you're doing is lessening your fine control of the throttle.

I actually find it helps with throttle control. when I had a stock throttle I would have to reposition my hand so far forward that it would be in an uncomfortable position when leaning off the bike. having full rotation of the throttle without having to let go gives better control.

[Degsy]

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Learn how to hold the throttle properly.

[The Snowman]

After riding Pete's 2nd gen, I noticed that I had to twist my throttle more than I had to on his. My old set up w/ the R6 tube was more than 1/4. It was more like 1/3 and in some instances, I didn't open the throttle WFO when I should have.

[Degsy]

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Yeah 1/3 is oo much.

[CBR929RE]

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Learn how to hold the throttle properly.

stock on the 929 I'd have to rotate my hand so far forward I'd practically hit the brake lever. if I didn't reposition it rotated so far back my hand would be under the bar. I swear that thing was like a 7/8 turn

[loudog]

I dig it Chuck...love seeing bikes simplified.

[OreoGaborio]

Never undersdtood the 1/5 turn throttle need though. All you're doing is lessening your fine control of the throttle.

Yes, quicker turn throttles do make the throttle control more sensitive... however...

If I look at the full range of deflection of my wrist, I feel as though I have the best fine motor control in the middle, say, 80-90%. So say my wrist goes from 0* to 150*, the closer I get to the limits of deflection (0 or 150), the less fine motor control I have.

A quicker turn throttle, while making the throttle more sensitive overall, puts more of the throttle range within that middle 80-90% range (say 10-140* for example) where I feel like I have fine motor control.

That make any sense at all?

[SVRACER01]

yes it makes perfect sense now....Chuck is gay

[The Snowman]

Crap. Some guys over on SVRider pointed out rules in certain organizations only allow kill switches on the handlebars.

CCS has this rule in its book:

5.2.2 All machines must have an operational handlebar mounted kill switch
or button. This switch must be easily identifiable by color or emblem for use
by safety crew members.

Do you think tech will have an issue with my triple-mounted one, which is clearly labeled?

[Jim]

Are you planning on doing CCS events with that triple outside of Loudon? I wouldn't sweat it.

[The Snowman]

I was entertaining doing a NJMP CCS event, but I probably won't.

I am going to further mark them by colored boots. Green for the ignition and red for the kill switch.

[388]

i did the motion pro throttle kit Zoran sells, switch included and was a great improvement w the flat slides over stock w r6 tube

[Tricklidz]

Nice job! Why don't you guys just rotate the throttle housing/tube forward to make use of the middle are of wrist rotation (Oreo's theory, which I agree with) and see how it feels. Assuming you've ground of the stupid pins in the housing--- don't forget to rotate the brake and clutch levers down.

[CBR929RE]

Nice job! Why don't you guys just rotate the throttle housing/tube forward to make use of the middle are of wrist rotation (Oreo's theory, which I agree with) and see how it feels. Assuming you've ground of the stupid pins in the housing--- don't forget to rotate the brake and clutch levers down.

because if you do that with the stock throttle you're not solving the problem. you're just shifting it from one end to the other. you're safer not being able to easily get to full throttle than you are not being able to fully shut off the gas when you get on the brakes.

[butcher bergs]

Do you think tech will have an issue with my triple-mounted one, which is clearly labeled?

If you have a two-digit number then, no, not at all.



Quite honestly Chuck, my thing has always been "why risk it?" I mean, sure you may get thru Loudon tech but surely you can't reliably depend on that happening every weekend and that is just based on the paragraph you posted from the rule book...that and are you really planning on limiting your race program to one track because of a stupid kill switch? Doesn't seem worth it at all, IMO.

Maybe save that switch position for pit lights if you ever decide to wire something like that up and go endurance racing....or maybe a Dukes of Hazzard horn or something


Not for nothing but if I walked over to your bike with that current setup, I'd be asking myself "do I need to flip the IGN then hit the KILL or what the hell is going on here??"

Just an outsider's perspective.

[OreoGaborio]

Nice job! Why don't you guys just rotate the throttle housing/tube forward to make use of the middle are of wrist rotation (Oreo's theory, which I agree with) and see how it feels. Assuming you've ground of the stupid pins in the housing--- don't forget to rotate the brake and clutch levers down.

Rotating the throttle housing does nothing to decrease the amount of turn required to operate the throttle from 0%-100%.

If you've got a true 1/4 turn throttle then it takes 90* to go from 0%-100%. 90 degrees is 90 degrees is 90 degrees. Rotating the housing on the bar doesn't change that.

[loudog]

Crap. Some guys over on SVRider pointed out rules in certain organizations only allow kill switches on the handlebars.

CCS has this rule in its book:

5.2.2 All machines must have an operational handlebar mounted kill switch
or button. This switch must be easily identifiable by color or emblem for use
by safety crew members.

Do you think tech will have an issue with my triple-mounted one, which is clearly labeled?

S*%t. I have the switches mounted in the triple too. It seems pretty straightforward, to me, where the kill switch is...I wonder how strict they'll be with this.

[csmutty]

S*%t. I have the switches mounted in the triple too. It seems pretty straightforward, to me, where the kill switch is...I wonder how strict they'll be with this.

Again, with LRRS you will be fine. You don't even have to have one! I ran last year without one and went through tech fine.

[Trouble]

Your switches might be OK but that clean bike and shiny paint are going to suck you into the 1a tires like nobody's business.

[loudog]

Again, with LRRS you will be fine. You don't even have to have one! I ran last year without one and went through tech fine.

That's comforting. Thanks Christian.

Your switches might be OK but that clean bike and shiny paint are going to suck you into the 1a tires like nobody's business.

Ha, too late! T11 in the rain the second session I rode with the fresh paint. Sure as death and taxes. Now I just make sure she's got some scratches before I head out...

[The Snowman]

To distinguish the switches, I now have different colored boots on each switch:



However, the more I look at this, the less I like it.

[CBR929RE]

I would have just left the handlebar switch but I see nothing wrong with your set up. I kinda like it a little better with the colors too, makes them stand out a little better and would be easy to identify them.

[The Snowman]

I would have just left the handlebar switch but I see nothing wrong with your set up. I kinda like it a little better with the colors too, makes them stand out a little better and would be easy to identify them.

Couldn't use the 1st gen, since it is attached to the throttle assembly and the 2nd gen was fairly large and didn't fit under the Motion Pro throttle assembly, the way it would with a stock 2nd gen throttle assembly.

[CBR929RE]

Couldn't use the 1st gen, since it is attached to the throttle assembly and the 2nd gen was fairly large and didn't fit under the Motion Pro throttle assembly, the way it would with a stock 2nd gen throttle assembly.

well you coulda bought an aftermarket switch. but I still like your set up and with the colors they stick out better so they should be easy to find for a corner worker.

[The Snowman]

well you coulda bought an aftermarket switch. but I still like your set up and with the colors they stick out better so they should be easy to find for a corner worker.

Motion Pro does sell one for an R6, which is easily convertible. It cost $35.99.