Bike Parts Question

[Kurlon]

Oh sweet jesus, I need to move back to Boston and race this season for this alone

Wait, all it takes is me getting worked up in a thread to get you back?

PISS OFF YOU WANKY WANKER!

Now, when can we expect you back in Boston, and wanna go in on a garage?

[lrrs313]

Oh boy now you did it. You somehow got Kurlon wound up. Now if only we could get this drama on ESPN we would have a shitload of people at the track to watch.

[lrrs182]

From now on please do me a favor... if you had an experience w/something like crashing, losing races, going slow, or getting scared at the racetrack, keep it to yourself. I appreciate knowledgeable advice on things I need to know, not predictions of the future or guesses about my ability on the track.


So you proved my point. I tried to tell you you'd be better served to keep your mouth shut, listen and think before you post. Nope, ego filled dribble, punk ass wanna be, no experience big mouth, then asking advice? But tell the truth, you only want to hear the advice you already thought was right?
At this point you just sound like a douche, but I'm gonna continue on this because some lurker, probably a humble one, will learn from this.
You think riding on the trails between trees and not hitting them makes you good? Nope, lucky. And until you go thru those same trails a couple hundred times, each time pushing it harder until you can't go a 1/2mph faster without hitting that tree,it does not compare to roadracing.If what you believe about yourself is true, you are a god. To win races (you don't lose) and never crashing you are a god. You spent so much time talking big shit here that you assume that me telling you that if you are really gonna push hard enough to win, you WILL eventually go down, fact, not a fukin prediction.Another fact is if you don't ever scare the shit out of yourself on the track you're riding like a pussy. You just don't get that riding hard down that mountain road is NOTHING like the racetrack. You can't podium if you arent on the edge of adhesion, skating alittle around corners.This ain't riding with you're buddies in their joe rocket jackets.You are in for a rude awakening.AS far as guessing your ability, I'm not, but you are. Couple laps around loudon in the rain don't tell you shit about abilities. When a guy stuffs you in 3 that wall will scare the shit out of you.
Here's the fucked up part. You coulda kept your mouth shut and had an old dude in your corner,A guy that has forgotten more about bikes than you know, who builds bikes from the frame up, with a trailer full off parts and tools, the kinda guy that would let you borrow his spare bike if you crashed. But nope, you gotta tell me you're gonna be the the new star, and the guy that never crashes, and for me to keep my advice to myself. Consider that shit done!

1.To everyone else, please chime in for me and answer the following questions.
2. How many races before he crashes
3.For those who didn't already think so, did he just enter "douche" rankings?
4.If he crashes, is it because he's just running so fast that he just steps over the line a touch, cuz he does something stupid, someone stuffs him, or he chokes and fucks up?
5. where does he crash? (I have to see his balls:braking ratio, but my money is on 3)
6. Do you think he can offend,agraviate and alienate as many people at the track as on this site! This is a great thread, and is gonna get better I think!

[BrianC]

Ok, based on that, stop, right now.

If you think roadRACING is an easy kind of riding, you do not belong on the track under a green flag.

Have you noticed the common trend in all of the peoples who HAVE roadraced advice? Every single one of them is telling you "It's dangerous, you're GOING to crash, plan for it." We're part of a dying sport, attendance is dropping, and racing by yourself is no fun, so they're not trying to scare you away out of fear of you mad skills. We're trying to pass on what we've ALL had to learn so that maybe you can avoid some of the rougher parts of the learning curve we went through. We want to keep you in the game 'cause we ENJOY RACING.

So if you'd prefer to run around with rose colored glasses on and avoid any talk of reality, kindly shut the fuck up around us, or don't get pissy when we're honest with you.

There have been some cool people on here who have been helpful, but I get "pissy" when I can sense that someone thinks they're smarter, better, or faster than me when they don't know me personally. I can tell when advice is coming from someone who's done this before and sees a way to help be informative, and I can tell when someone is an idiot... like saying "you need to be humble" when they've never met me. I've met 3 dudes from this forum in person, and didn't have a problem w/any of them. These people were very helpful, and seemed genuine in trying to get people into their sport. That is the way to bring people into the sport, not making assumptions, talking down, trying to scare or overwhelm, or being an asshole. Basically, I am confident in my abilities, and I do think over-confidence is funny, so I can see how that might get people riled up, but to tell me that I might crash if I race, like I'm not smart enough to understand that? There is a difference from the person who says, "when your new, you need to go slow to go fast", and the person who says, "if you haven't been on the track before, you're going to be slow as fuck". Or "your GOING to crash".

[BrianC]

From now on please do me a favor... if you had an experience w/something like crashing, losing races, going slow, or getting scared at the racetrack, keep it to yourself. I appreciate knowledgeable advice on things I need to know, not predictions of the future or guesses about my ability on the track.


So you proved my point. I tried to tell you you'd be better served to keep your mouth shut, listen and think before you post. Nope, ego filled dribble, punk ass wanna be, no experience big mouth, then asking advice? But tell the truth, you only want to hear the advice you already thought was right?
At this point you just sound like a douche, but I'm gonna continue on this because some lurker, probably a humble one, will learn from this.
You think riding on the trails between trees and not hitting them makes you good? Nope, lucky. And until you go thru those same trails a couple hundred times, each time pushing it harder until you can't go a 1/2mph faster without hitting that tree,it does not compare to roadracing.If what you believe about yourself is true, you are a god. To win races (you don't lose) and never crashing you are a god. You spent so much time talking big shit here that you assume that me telling you that if you are really gonna push hard enough to win, you WILL eventually go down, fact, not a fukin prediction.Another fact is if you don't ever scare the shit out of yourself on the track you're riding like a pussy. You just don't get that riding hard down that mountain road is NOTHING like the racetrack. You can't podium if you arent on the edge of adhesion, skating alittle around corners.This ain't riding with you're buddies in their joe rocket jackets.You are in for a rude awakening.AS far as guessing your ability, I'm not, but you are. Couple laps around loudon in the rain don't tell you shit about abilities. When a guy stuffs you in 3 that wall will scare the shit out of you.
Here's the fucked up part. You coulda kept your mouth shut and had an old dude in your corner,A guy that has forgotten more about bikes than you know, who builds bikes from the frame up, with a trailer full off parts and tools, the kinda guy that would let you borrow his spare bike if you crashed. But nope, you gotta tell me you're gonna be the the new star, and the guy that never crashes, and for me to keep my advice to myself. Consider that shit done!

1.To everyone else, please chime in for me and answer the following questions.
2. How many races before he crashes
3.For those who didn't already think so, did he just enter "douche" rankings?
4.If he crashes, is it because he's just running so fast that he just steps over the line a touch, cuz he does something stupid, someone stuffs him, or he chokes and fucks up?
5. where does he crash? (I have to see his balls:braking ratio, but my money is on 3)
6. Do you think he can offend,agraviate and alienate as many people at the track as on this site! This is a great thread, and is gonna get better I think!

I can say one thing to this: You don't know shit about me or my abilities. You are going to tell me about "skating around corners"? I'll fucking do a donut around you in turn 1 and then pass your ass. You have this false impression that I'm some punk running around w/a joe rocket jacket, so you post up a whole rant assuming I'm a douche? This is why I have such a hard time being peaceful on this forum. You just don't have a fucking clue who you're dealing with. Try to belittle my experience on a bike.... it doesn't make you faster, or cooler if that is how you are trying to come across. I will fucking humiliate you at the track.

[Degsy]

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[Doc]

I can say one thing to this: You don't know shit about me or my abilities.

Can't wait to find out.

You are going to tell me about "skating around corners"? I'll fucking do a donut around you in turn 1 and then pass your ass.

I gotta see this!

You just don't have a fucking clue who you're dealing with.

Oh I think we all have some idea.

I will fucking humiliate you at the track.

Lap times baby. Lap times. Post em up.


I am a slow ass mother fucker. Less than 20 race weekends under my belt and about as many trackdays. I crash about 2-3 times a year. I think I would crash more if I wasn't such a pussy.

Luckily I improve a little each year and have fun even when I do crash because of all the great people I have met at the track.

It all started with being humble, asking for help and listening.

Good Luck B.

[lrrs182]

Guys, I fukin roaring laughing here!!!!! OMG, this is hilarious! He doesn't listen to a word anyone says, does he? Play it back for me brain,brian, whatever, when did I question your abilities? No one, including you, has any idea of your abitlies,YOU'VE NEVER RACED DUDE!!!!!! So you can do donuts? I'm impessed, anyone else here impressed? And you'll do donuts around me in turn one? Thats exactly what I'm afraid of!LOL
You are so wound up proving you are so talented (instead of shutting up and just proving it) that you misread honest advice, no, a reality check, as putting you down. I never said "you suck, so you will crash", quite the opposite. You know who usually crashes? Guys who just cruise around. If you are the cowboy squirrel fucker you claim to be, you WILL crash! I was giving you the benefit of doubt that you had the heart of a lion and would push it to the limits! Do you think you are so good that you will be out front all by yourself quickly so no one elses mistake knocks you down? If you think for a minute you are going to roadrace for any period of time without crashing you are delusional. I talked nice and tried to not offend that chip on your shoulder. I only wanted you to go into this prepared for the eventualities of racing. I'm honored to be conversing with a boy who is gonna be a champ and never crash. You could teach all the world and national champs something, as they have all crashed, some badly, some in wheelchairs.You da man! The trashin' I gave you only came after you're punk ass reply about me not telling you you're gonna crash. You've built a fan base here, most hoping you'll fail miserably.
In closing, you really can't think for a minute that you've ever shown humility here, do you!LMAO! read your shit will you.

gonna be a fun year at LRRS, gonna try to do as many events as possible, gotta see this kid that doesn't crash, gonna use a street bike to win his first championship,then sell as a streetbike without damage. I was actually gonna offer to let him take some laps on an R6 with penske and GMD cart'd forks so feel the difference between stock and built. But thats right, he's so good he don't need nuttin but a streetbike to win on! home he gets up to AM quick to race real bikes.
Nite folks, damn, I'm still laughing out loud.

[lrrs182]

BTW, I never ASSUMED you were a douche, you proved it to us all in our little conversation!

[Chippertheripper]

1.To everyone else, please chime in for me and answer the following questions.
2. How many races before he crashes
3.For those who didn't already think so, did he just enter "douche" rankings?
4.If he crashes, is it because he's just running so fast that he just steps over the line a touch, cuz he does something stupid, someone stuffs him, or he chokes and fucks up?
5. where does he crash? (I have to see his balls:braking ratio, but my money is on 3)
6. Do you think he can offend,agraviate and alienate as many people at the track as on this site! This is a great thread, and is gonna get better I think!

i shall preface this by stating that: you ^ don't really want to listen to him not wanting to listen to you. hence the entertainment.

2 i have no idea how long it's take him to crash, but i'll roll the dice and say within the first weekend.

3 he's just not good at the innerwebz

4 pushing too hard

5 this is a tough one. i'm calling 4 or 12. too much throttle, not enough traction.

6 probably not. i'm one of the 3 dudes he's met. and he seems like a good kid. i defer to my answer to #3.

this is my honest assesment. i liked the kid. i think he'll put his head down and charge pretty hard. and the lap times/finishes will tell the rest of the story. (and i'll agree that ripping through the woods isn't the same at all, but riding dirty sure does help on the track, on the street, and everywhere else....but that's another entertaining thread that hasn't happened yet)

[OreoGaborio]

oh jesus, this shit again




Brian. People are speaking from experience here. We may not know YOU and YOUR abilities, but the fact of the matter is, we've seen a THOUSAND Brian C's come and go already. Some make it, some don't. We're just preparing you for the reality of what's to come. So if you don't like hearing unfiltered reality, then keep your head in the fucking sand cuz we're not gonna treat you different than anyone else and sugar coat everything so you don't get your butt hurt.


PS, I'm gonna go for the underdog & say T1 or 12.

[CBR929RE]

Never said I wasn't going to crash... . I don't know what it is about this forum that gets people so wound up that they feel like they need to teach me a lesson when they've never seen me ride and don't know me personally. Maybe this is just what happens to new people on the forum, but it is kind of gay. I'm 32 years old, went to college, smart enough to make a decent life for my wife and kids, and have over 20 years experience riding motorcycles. I know I've got myself into trouble on here a few times because I've talked like I know what roadracing is all about and I can now say that I won't do that anymore, but I do know how to estimate danger. I've ridden with and kept up w/guys like national enduro champ Kevin Hines and expert local racers fucking screaming on a big 2-stroke thru the woods w/trees 24" apart and rocks big as fuck. I look at roadracing as the easy kind of riding. My confidence in my abilities to ride or race a motorcycle on the pavement comes from years of experience riding the hardest places I can find, dirt or street.
From now on please do me a favor... if you had an experience w/something like crashing, losing races, going slow, or getting scared at the racetrack, keep it to yourself. I appreciate knowledgeable advice on things I need to know, not predictions of the future or guesses about my ability on the track. Like I said... if I destroy my bike, it is a price I am willing to pay otherwise I wouldn't take it to the track to begin with.

I've met quite a few on here in person, every single one I first met at the track. Honestly if I wrote this same shit even having known these people they'd still rip on me.

Any advice or comments these guys wanna give me I will happily take. whether its telling me I'm gonna crash at some point and hopefully learn from it or telling me to change my line by a foot in a certain corner. A LOT of these guys have been there and done that. Why do you feel the need to contradict them and say shit "like you don't know me or my abilites" If you truly believe this I want you to call up CCS headquarters and tell them you're an expert even though you've never raced, you have more talent than all others who had to earn their way through the ranks so you should be out there running the number 1 plate from the begining. here's their number 817-246-1127 they're open 9-5 central time.

what races are you going to enter? I'm seriously considering making sure I'm not in the same ones as you or at least limiting which ones we'd be in together.

you know that "I ride flat out" video? that's based on reality. you hang around the track long enough you're gonna see that guy and you can be damn sure he'll be hitting the deck that day. please don't be that guy. if you don't like what people on here are saying then I suggest you just keep your mouth shut till April and let your riding do your talking for you.

I wanna believe you're an alright guy but seriously you make it hard.

[lrrs182]

Chip,Pete,CBR, believe it or not I STILL want to believe there is a good kid under all this macho bullshit he spews. I have my ideas about how he's arrived at this place in his life but I'll keep that to my self. The real shame is that he takes heart felt advice as a put down. Evn when I came back and spanked him for mouthing off I tried to advice him to wait, think and use some tact before disagreeing. My orginal post was adsolutely nothing but looking out for his and his bike well being and thought he need a reality check about wrecking.Hell, my first post way back in this thread was about having good gear, cuz eventually it will get tested.I even complimented him saying I thought he might have the heart of a lion. Loudon is considered the most dangerous track in the country by many racers.
Brian, absolutely no one here wanted to see you fail until you started talking smack.Whats more, no one here that wants to see you fail wants to see you get hurt. Racing is a tight knit community. In car racing I've had a disliked competitor borrow a part and beat me, and I would have let him borrow it again. Gonna do donuts around me in 1 then pass me? Unfortunely you are the poster child for the kids that make 600 SS a wreckfest.Brian, You ae so wound up trying to prove ahead of time that youare the next champ that you are alienating those willing to help you. Nowhere in my original post did I put you down, just tried to have you get a grip on the fact that you will crash eventually. Hopefully they will all be low side slides and you'll walk away.What if your bike tips when you're doing the hi speed donut in one while passing me? You better hope a CCS/LRRS official doesn't see this thread, you still have to be approved and they can deny you if they don't like the way your rookie race goes.
I'm gonna throw out one more piece of advice strickly on Chip's saying a good guy. Pay attention to anything GMD tells you, they are the shitz, and know loudon well. Someone picking #4 reminded me of something. My 600 was sprung for a 185 rider, I'm 220. Once I got the hang of #4 I would stand on the throttle hard early off of 3 and with my undersprung rear would compress and I'd pick my front still in 3/4 lean going uphill. I don't know your weight but if they suggest heavier springs it is more than a handling issue, it really is a safety issue.
Now pull your panties out of your vagina and stop being such a fucking girl. There is a bunch of guys here, including me, that have seen sooooo many Brians, and don't really care about the fact that you blow your own horn before you even have one, or talk back like a douche, we really want to look out for your well being, win or lose.
Going ice racing, can't wait to come see this thread when I get home! Lurkers, chime in, save this kid from himself.

[BrianC]

Like I've already said, there has been some decent people on here and it comes across in there posts. There are also alot of people who piss me off on here. I have a hard time when someone wants to talk to me like I'm a little kid, and I don't care if I haven't raced my bike before, it still doesn't warrant some of the bullshit that's been said to me on here. To me, that is like telling a really good guitarist that they are going to suck until they play a show. It's just not true. The problem here on this forum is this: I don't know you guys personally, and until I've met you in person or watched you race, I'm not taking much advice or taking you at all seriously at all. You keep telling me about how much there is to learn, but coming from who? I don't know you! You might need to learn more than I do... I just don't know. So that is why I have a hard time, and it doesn't matter if you have more races under your belt. So in essence, the only use this forum has is when decent people chime in with decent advice on parts or things a newcomer might need to know to get into the sport. Not when someone wants to make fun of someone who hasn't even tried there sport. You keep saying I don't know because I haven't raced, no lap times, etc... well that is just the point. No one knows yet so how can you assume I'm that bad. Why would you say things like, "I don't want to race with you"? You don't even know me and have never observed me at the track! Saying that is just an insult, nothing more. And as far as officials banning me from racing before I get started... they would never. An outsider reading these threads can see right thru the egos who are trying to impress a newcomer w/all their experience. It is simple to see when someone is just a normal confident person who is asking questions, and when someone is a douche who wants to make it known they have more experience on the track. That and the fact that I probably do come across as an asshole on the computer like Chip said. I have no idea why that happens, but if I were in a room talking to any of you in person it would be a different vibe completely. My deportment and character can be judged at the track, and the officials won't turn me away. That is why this forum aggrevates me so much... I haven't had any of these problems with people I've met at Penguin, or at the races I spectated at. No one felt the need to tell me that I need to be humble... is that because of things like the donut comment? It's a fucking joke man, nothing else. Take it easy people, see you at the track.

[lrrs182]

Keep digging Brian , keep digging.
btw, I will disect and reply to all the trash, silly shit, and hypocricies in your latest post when I get home after iceracing.it's ludicrous !

[OreoGaborio]

Brian.... We're not gonna coddle you, hold your hand and tell you everything's gonna be all peaches & roses. Get over yourself.

[OreoGaborio]

The problem here on this forum is this: I don't know you guys personally, and until I've met you in person or watched you race, I'm not taking much advice or taking you at all seriously at all. You keep telling me about how much there is to learn, but coming from who? I don't know you! You might need to learn more than I do... I just don't know..

And that's your problem.

I teach riding to beginners all the way up to the racer level. I still learn from every one of THEM. I LEARN FROM NEWBIES whether I know them or not. But you're acting like you know better than we do just because you don't like how the information is presented. If you don't like our advice, smile, say "thanks" and move on. You're burning a lot of bridges with people that you can learn a lot from simply because of your ignorant pride.

Look at how you've responded to some of the people who have offered you advice. Do you really think anyone really wants to help you after seeing how you respond to criticism? Fuck no. There are people who could very easily take you under their wing are reading this and thinking "Forget that kid, he's already God's gift to racing... he obviously doesn't need my help".

Shit, Degsy's probably gonna make some popcorn next time he logs in just so he can read the shit show & laugh his ass off at you. He was one of my biggest mentors and was a HUGE help to me back when I first started riding on the track. Think he's gonna give you any advice? Pssh... yeah, right. Not many people "worth your time" are gonna bother you giving the time of day if you can't take advice from even a rookie racer.

So get your head outta your ass and start listening to what EVERYONE has to say. It may not all be right for YOU, but it's advice that worked for them, so don't sit there and blow us off like we're the idiots and you're all-knowing, cuz that's exactly what you're doin.

Of course I'm expecting a long drawn out reply to this, telling me how I'm so wrong and you're totally not like that... Yeah, well.... you are.

[crowspeed07]

whats wrong with joe rocket?

[Kurlon]

whats wrong with joe rocket?

They USED to make a good glove... oh how I long for another pair of first generation Speedmasters...

[crowspeed07]

They USED to make a good glove... oh how I long for another pair of first generation Speedmasters...

i was looking into buying one of there jackets was under the impression they made some good products guess il need to keep looking.

[Kurlon]

i was looking into buying one of there jackets was under the impression they made some good products guess il need to keep looking.

The quality is very hit or miss. Sometimes you get good kit from them, other times you can watch the threads come out as you test fit.

[butcher bergs]

Brian, I had this dream last night. God himself appeared and told me to tell you to listen to the sage advice being given and whether or not you agree with it, people are taking time out of their lives to compose a response and offer you some kind of knowledge that you may or may not already have.

Brother, I emplore you to take a deep breath, sit back and appreciate in the knowledge rather than reject it.

Please. It is for your own good as no one on this forum is going to steer you in the wrong direction or tell you something which would compromise your safety or the safety of others.

[Ray-Ray]

This is just sad...and Brian is becoming a HUGE joke....I mean WTF? You guys are just trying to help him an he's just bad mouthing you. LRRS182 Was just trying to give him some advice. If Josh Beckett was trying to show you proper form and exercises to pitch would you tell him that he's a joke and that you could out pitch him after he gave you advice? Maybe you should pick up new words in your dictionary like humility and humble and practice them. Instead of being a complete fucking asshole and shit on people trying to be nice to you and give you advice! Racers and track riders in Loudon are pretty much a bug family and a club, if you stir people up witch your cocky attitude, then your just going to piss people off. No one will feel any compassion for you if/when you lay your pretty bike down. We will be concerned about your health and safety, but will feel ZERO compassion. You really should be a dick to people bro. Especially to a majority of people that spend their whole spring and summers in Loudon. Your a joke. Fag

[OreoGaborio]

Pssh, I've never met Josh Beckett... why would I ever take him seriously? What would HE know???

[Ray-Ray]

Pssh, I've never met Josh Beckett... why would I ever take him seriously? What would HE know???

Maybe I should have used Tom Brady shooting 3 pointers?? Or Michael Jordan's back hand in Tennis?