Bike Parts Question

[lrrs182]

What do you know, you buy joe rocket!
(as I hide my face for having ever made that comment!)

[crowspeed07]

i dont own anything from rocket we wont discuss the gear i own though.

[CBR929RE]

I've gotta admit, if I was racing the rookie race with him I'd do a soft start and follow him thru a lap before getting anywhere near him considering the bar he has set for himself. I do have to believe it might be the most watched rookie race in a long time, hope there is vid for the Utub!

ha I'm gonna "soft start" the rookie race, not because of him though but because I've never even made an attempt at launching a bike an don't wanna pull a Greg at the starting line.

Lol, he did, it's on his profile page, and HOW DARE you question that, he don't know your credentials!!!
Do realize folks with the new rules released today when he runs a sub 1:20 he will be bumping to AM in his rookie race!

Hey, I'm trying to make an educated guess as to what kinda times he'll turn, and I really didn't read many of his posts, has he done any track days and if so, how many?

as far as I know his only track experience is the 1 day at the Penguin School. if I had to take a wild guess and read through all the macho I'd say low 30s maybe even high 20s aren't out of the question. but I've never seen the guy ride so he could be a maniac (and I don't mean that in a bad way) and do low 20s or he could be avg and do 40s.

[lrrs182]

Old saying; no race is ever won in the first turn, but many are lost there. All the schools will tell you to work on one skill at a time, and my unqualified opinion is that starts should be one of the last .

[gmdboston]

Alright, let me just make a few things clear here and then I'll disappear form this forum altogether. Now, I don't know this guy whom I have quoted, and I don't want to be his enemy. Here we have exactly the type of shit that pisses me off. I'll apologize in advance because like I said, I don't know you, and maybe things would go different if we talked in person, but I have to do this. Get this thru your fucking ears or eyes or whatever... I never said I wasn't going to crash! I just simply explained that I didn't feel like drilling holes and painting more parts. If I destroy my gas tank down the road because the tank sliders I chose only prevent a fire, oh well, I'll take that risk. What's it to you? How can my willingness to risk my gas tank make you think I'm stating I won't ever crash, or that I'm the best and the fastest, and I don't care about my family? Those are all just bullshit antagonizing statements that anyone would get angry about. It's not ball-busting, not like a joke, you are intentionally mis-stating things. And that goon RAy Ray who went on a full-blown tirade about me being an asshole... the same dude who got all pissy when I made fun of my own paint job because he thought I was taking a shot at Landrics? Who the fuck are you? You deserve a kick in the balls man, seriously. I came to this forum as part of the research I was doing to get into the sport. I did alot of reading, preparing etc... and then I ran into people like these two, who assumed I did no planning, have no talent, and need to be taught the ropes according to what they know. Sorry, but you didn't teach me anything by saying it is only a matter of time before I crash. I have racer friends and plenty of time in the seat on bikes of all kinds. I know how motorcycles react when you push them. You weren't being helpful, just degrading. If you want to wait until we meet, watch me go slow around the track or do something stupid, then say something degrading... go ahead. That would be okay, and I can take that kind of shit. I just can't take it form people who know nothing about me, especially when I've done nothing to deserve it. I know Steve from Penguin was watching me ride when I did my school. He told me so. He never said anything about me riding dangerous or being a dickhead. I didn't have anyone who I passed come up to me and say, "dude that was an aggressive move" or anything like that. We all had a good time and I put effort into not passing when it wasn't safe, being predictable, and riding safe. Who the fuck are you to say my efforts aren't there? I did alot of looking into this before I embarked on this mission. I don't just spectate or read about racing, I study it. I've seen who's fast up there at the track, and watched what they are doing. I've put alot of effort into getting ready and it just sucks when someone wants to assume I haven't and say rude things. Then as if that isn't enough, make up a bunch of bullshit about me thinking I'm the fastest guy around! That's all such bullshit man. Do you really think I'm that stupid? I know that roadracing, like anything else is going to take work. I've said that from day one. This thread, like most of all my others, was going fine and had info that might help another new guy until someone felt it necessary to try and force there opinion. So some of you don't think it is possible to use a bike on the track and the street? Thanks for that wisdom, I just disagree. It isn't because it's not what I want to hear, it's just that I don't see any reason why it can't be done. Yes I may crash the thing, but what are the odds that It will be destroyed? Maybe I should have said, "I plan on using this bike on the street and maybe selling it in the future, if I don't destroy it on the track". Isn't that just common sense? No need to assume I'm stating that I'll never crash. Speak the truth people... the last thing we need in this world is deceptive people who twist the truth and make others look bad.

Well said Brian. Funny thing about advise, you don't have to take it, and it may not be right for you. I've seen a lot of race programs in my quarter century of racing and I've found that the ones who spend the most time telling you what to do know the least because the ones who really know, are too busy doing it.

[CEO]

I've never even made an attempt at launching a bike an don't wanna pull a Greg at the starting line.

Or maybe pull a me?

[Doc]

ha I'm gonna "soft start" the rookie race, not because of him though but because I've never even made an attempt at launching a bike an don't wanna pull a Greg at the starting line.

You say that now! Wait until you are on the line the the one board stats to tip...

[CBR929RE]

Or maybe pull a me?

that's not too bad. didn't Greg get both feet on the ground before putting the wheel down? and that was on an EX500.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

[B]ha I'm gonna "soft start" the rookie race, not because of him though but because I've never even made an attempt at launching a bike an don't wanna pull a Greg at the starting line.]/B]



as far as I know his only track experience is the 1 day at the Penguin School. if I had to take a wild guess and read through all the macho I'd say low 30s maybe even high 20s aren't out of the question. but I've never seen the guy ride so he could be a maniac (and I don't mean that in a bad way) and do low 20s or he could be avg and do 40s.

Thank you.

[butcher bergs]

24.7

I think we're gonna need a poll.

[Doc]

24.7

I think we're gonna need a poll.

Better yet a Pool! Closest to his Best laptime wins.

$5 per entry.

[Degsy]

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I think he's gonna surprise you all with 1:20 or 1:19 first weekend. Seen it happen before.

[OreoGaborio]

wouldn't surprise me in the least

what WOULD surprise me if he does it AND keeps it on two wheels.

[butcher bergs]

wouldn't surprise me in the least

what WOULD surprise me if he does it AND keeps it on two wheels.

Rookie Race or all weekend?

[OreoGaborio]

all weekend

[butcher bergs]

I'll bring the popcorn.

[moto316]

28.7....oh wait hes gonna be running michelins...35.7 lol

[Danz19899]

1:27's

[BrianC]

I piss YOU off? You just keep getting douchier!Brain, do you ever read any of the crap you spew? And do you argue so much that you forget the what the arguement was about? Go back and read my first post about crashing. I NEVER mentioned you drilling holes in your tank, I don't even know the sliders you guys are talking about! I explained that I got the impression you think you are going to race without crashing, and wanted to tell a kid with NO racetrack experience (your talent level doesn't matter) what an old dude with experience has learned to be truth.I NEVER questioned your talent or knowledge, cuz frankly, I don't care! I don't know you, I don't need to know you, I have plenty of friends. I've seen guys die on bikes. I posted because I sensed a niavity to the dangers of the racetrack. Now even if you already understood that, did you need to go of in a tantrum saying you are sick of people giving you advice that you don't want to hear? I only was saying be careful. A few pages back when you were asking what to buy I posted asking if you had good safety equipment. All I ever was in this was a guy thats been around, seen alot, worrying about another racers safety. And you trash me? Fuck you punk. I laughed it all off, including how you were going to humiliate me on the track, until your comment about doing donuts around me and passing me in one. Talking like that isn't funny, ever. Yea, you didnt seem to want to address THAT comment in this post did you? You also don't seem to want to address how you don't feel you should respect anyone here until you know how good we are, but we should respect your racing talent when you have,errrrrrrr, NO experience racing? Be a man and address these will you? BTW, if you do a donut arount me in one, I promise, YOU will be the one with scares, so don't EVER talk that shit to me again. Man up, explain that shit.

I came back for you man... to address the issues you request. I have read your posts again, and I still get the same reaction I did when I first read them. But before I let that get me all wound up, I'll just say that I do get what the community is all about. I like it, and could sense it is that way every time I've been to Loudon... . Everyone I've met in person has been really cool, eager to help, and has had a laid back and funny attitude. I am not here to disrespect anyone, including you. My comment about doing a donut around you and then passing you was a response to your insistence that I don't know shit, and never will until I can skate around corners pushing the limits of traction.... etc.... . It was meant to be a joke, you know, like "I'll run circles around you at the track" tongue in cheek kind of thing. If you don't think that is funny or a joke, then I am sorry. I don't want to scare you. In fact, I am more concerned with being a safe rider than anything else. It bothers me more that someone like you or cbr929 is going to come on here and try and paint me as the dangerous guy to avoid, than when you talk shit about how fast I'll be around the track. I never cared too much about going fast or impressing anyone, so I really don't have a clue why you keep posting things like that and saying that I think I am God's gift to racing. It goes like this: When you say something like your "skating on the edge" comment, I think to myself, "does this guy think I've never pushed the limits of traction on my bike?" I want to stop you from going any further with all your "advice" and such because I see right away you have the wrong impression. You are about to go ahead and address someone who doesn't know how to ride a bike and I just don't like being addressed that way. Or maybe we can use your concern as another example. You said you just wanted to let the guy new to racing know about the dangers of the track. Ok, so again you start in with some stuff that I feel should be addressed to a child who's being introduced to the sport for the first time. I am not a child. I am a grown man who made the decision over a year ago that I wanted to race my bike. I spent the rest of the year planning to make it happen, including weighing the risks. That is a personal decision and doesn't require outside opinion. I don't ask question like that on this forum for that reason. I don't need info about what you think is safe for me or whether it's good decision for my family. I asked about bike parts. I just wanted to know if rearsets are really necessary for my bike. I know Eric Wood used to race w/out them so I know it's possible. Just shit like that, that is open to debate so I could get everyone's opinion and make a decision. I don't need you to tell me that racing's dangerous. I could do without the Plymouth's fastest and "he's so good he won't crash" type of shit. You see, it's not that I'm looking for any more respect than is common decency, and I'm not disrespecting your advice, it's just the type of advice you are offering and the way you are addressing me. Seriously, don't worry about me. I will not cut you off, do donuts around you, run you wide, or try (on purpose) to humiliate you.

[lrrs182]

I came back for you man... to address the issues you request. I have read your posts again, and I still get the same reaction I did when I first read them. But before I let that get me all wound up, I'll just say that I do get what the community is all about. I like it, and could sense it is that way every time I've been to Loudon... . Everyone I've met in person has been really cool, eager to help, and has had a laid back and funny attitude. I am not here to disrespect anyone, including you. My comment about doing a donut around you and then passing you was a response to your insistence that I don't know shit, and never will until I can skate around corners pushing the limits of traction.... etc.... . It was meant to be a joke, you know, like "I'll run circles around you at the track" tongue in cheek kind of thing. If you don't think that is funny or a joke, then I am sorry. I don't want to scare you. In fact, I am more concerned with being a safe rider than anything else. It bothers me more that someone like you or cbr929 is going to come on here and try and paint me as the dangerous guy to avoid, than when you talk shit about how fast I'll be around the track. I never cared too much about going fast or impressing anyone, so I really don't have a clue why you keep posting things like that and saying that I think I am God's gift to racing. It goes like this: When you say something like your "skating on the edge" comment, I think to myself, "does this guy think I've never pushed the limits of traction on my bike?" I want to stop you from going any further with all your "advice" and such because I see right away you have the wrong impression. You are about to go ahead and address someone who doesn't know how to ride a bike and I just don't like being addressed that way. Or maybe we can use your concern as another example. You said you just wanted to let the guy new to racing know about the dangers of the track. Ok, so again you start in with some stuff that I feel should be addressed to a child who's being introduced to the sport for the first time. I am not a child. I am a grown man who made the decision over a year ago that I wanted to race my bike. I spent the rest of the year planning to make it happen, including weighing the risks. That is a personal decision and doesn't require outside opinion. I don't ask question like that on this forum for that reason. I don't need info about what you think is safe for me or whether it's good decision for my family. I asked about bike parts. I just wanted to know if rearsets are really necessary for my bike. I know Eric Wood used to race w/out them so I know it's possible. Just shit like that, that is open to debate so I could get everyone's opinion and make a decision. I don't need you to tell me that racing's dangerous. I could do without the Plymouth's fastest and "he's so good he won't crash" type of shit. You see, it's not that I'm looking for any more respect than is common decency, and I'm not disrespecting your advice, it's just the type of advice you are offering and the way you are addressing me. Seriously, don't worry about me. I will not cut you off, do donuts around you, run you wide, or try (on purpose) to humiliate you.

Brain, brain brain,talking to you is like talking to an 8 yr old. You seem to want to change history and leave out things YOU've said. First, to simplify all of this think about this: A guy who regardless of racing prowess has been on this earth twenty years longer that you says "hey, you sound like your are not considering the dangers here, and my experience has showed me.............". You could easily have said "Yea, I've considered those possibilties, but thanks for caring about my safety" Instead I got "Shut the fuck up with anything I don't want to hear and I don't know you so you have no credibility" THAT was what made you a douche. I am also not the only one here that has a problem with you downing others track cred but you expecting some when you haven't ever raced. The slowest guy here has more cred than you, if he's raced a race. Funny thing is, I think you will be fast, just think you act like a jerk. I'm really done here as talking to you is pointless when you want to ignore what you've said and make it out like you didn't bring this on yourself. And just to give the perfect example of all of this, your line "I could do without all the Plymouths fastest",Dumbass it's the title of your profile! LMAO, what an egomaniac! It was fun Brain, come back and argue with me when you have actually done a lap in a race.

[Chippertheripper]

he was given that after the ny's fastest debacle...and another debacle with his intro thread, if my memory serves me. not a self proclaimed title.
quote on the bottom, bitches.

Brain, brain brain,talking to you is like talking to an 8 yr old. You seem to want to change history and leave out things YOU've said. First, to simplify all of this think about this: A guy who regardless of racing prowess has been on this earth twenty years longer that you says "hey, you sound like your are not considering the dangers here, and my experience has showed me.............". You could easily have said "Yea, I've considered those possibilties, but thanks for caring about my safety" Instead I got "Shut the fuck up with anything I don't want to hear and I don't know you so you have no credibility" THAT was what made you a douche. I am also not the only one here that has a problem with you downing others track cred but you expecting some when you haven't ever raced. The slowest guy here has more cred than you, if he's raced a race. Funny thing is, I think you will be fast, just think you act like a jerk. I'm really done here as talking to you is pointless when you want to ignore what you've said and make it out like you didn't bring this on yourself. And just to give the perfect example of all of this, your line "I could do without all the Plymouths fastest",Dumbass it's the title of your profile! LMAO, what an egomaniac! It was fun Brain, come back and argue with me when you have actually done a lap in a race.

[lrrs182]

LOL, OK, then I APOLOGIZE for that one, made the assumption with that ego, errrrrrr, bravado, that he wrote that title. Then under those circumstances I understand you saying "I could do without the......". I really am done with this thread but wanted to correct a wrong, thanks Chip

Quote on the bottom? Man, I just figger'd how to get a quote on the PAGE!! I'll try harder next time to follow protocol.

[CBR929RE]

I'm sorry if I offended you with my comment earlier Brian. but having been around the track and for 4 years now I've heard all the stories and probably seen it happen where I guy with an ego comes in and talks himself up only to crash or ride like an ass. I know I shouldn't stereotype you and slap that label on you but understand its not a personal attack its just based on past experiences. I hope you can understand that even if this doesn't actually apply to you, you should see how I would be worried about my own safety being on the track with a person that comes off this way. and with regards to your last post, why couldn't you have just come off that way before? you seemed a lot calmer in that response.


and remember we WILL both gonna be on track together this year so I am putting my trust in you that you just have a keyboard complex and are a much better person face to face. now lets spend the next 2 months getting out bikes finished and then go have some fun.

[OreoGaborio]

Brain, brain brain,talking to you is like talking to an 8 yr old. You seem to want to change history and leave out things YOU've said. First, to simplify all of this think about this: A guy who regardless of racing prowess has been on this earth twenty years longer that you says "hey, you sound like your are not considering the dangers here, and my experience has showed me.............". You could easily have said "Yea, I've considered those possibilties, but thanks for caring about my safety" Instead I got "Shut the fuck up with anything I don't want to hear and I don't know you so you have no credibility" THAT was what made you a douche. I am also not the only one here that has a problem with you downing others track cred but you expecting some when you haven't ever raced. The slowest guy here has more cred than you, if he's raced a race. Funny thing is, I think you will be fast, just think you act like a jerk. I'm really done here as talking to you is pointless when you want to ignore what you've said and make it out like you didn't bring this on yourself. And just to give the perfect example of all of this, your line "I could do without all the Plymouths fastest",Dumbass it's the title of your profile! LMAO, what an egomaniac! It was fun Brain, come back and argue with me when you have actually done a lap in a race.

Aw c'mon man.... Considering the way you talk down to him, have an answer for everything and always need to get the last word, I'm thinkin you have just as big of an e-ego as Brian.

Leave the kid alone and stop trolling him along fer christ's sake

[OreoGaborio]

quote on the bottom, bitches.

quote on top. it sets the context.

Synthetic oil for the win