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LuvDog
Yikes, i think i'd unhook the trailer and then pull in to charge
That's generally what I do.
Some chargers have places you can pull in behind without unhooking when towing. Tesla Superchargers generally don't.
I've unhooked about 80% of the time. It's 2 minutes for any capable adult.
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Originally Posted by
TheIglu
That's generally what I do.
Some chargers have places you can pull in behind without unhooking when towing. Tesla Superchargers generally don't.
I've unhooked about 80% of the time. It's 2 minutes for any capable adult.
2 minutes, does that include reconnecting ?
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Originally Posted by
PurplePackage
Rivian just announced it is turning a profit. If Musk kills their big loan it will be a 100% unjustified and 100% spiteful decision.
$6.6 billion to build a new factory. The outline of the agreement is there for all to see. It takes less time to read it than to unhook a trailer at a charging station. :D
https://rivian.com/newsroom/article/...loan-agreement
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This is interesting. I can't see giving up the maverick for it but the price point is right up my alley. As is the simplicity.
https://www.theverge.com/electric-ca...nt-radio-bezos
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This is what everyone has been asking for this whole time, right?
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Those slate trucks will sell out. The only problem is plastic body panels aren't going to do shit in a crash, and if there is no engine to take the blow, your bones are the strongest thing in the cab.
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Originally Posted by
PurplePackage
Those slate trucks will sell out. The only problem is plastic body panels aren't going to do shit in a crash, and if there is no engine to take the blow, your bones are the strongest thing in the cab.
how were saturns in crashes?...those had plastic body panels i believe
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That could not completely suck as a 2nd vehicle for us. My wife will probably veto on the 2 seats + bezos connection.
The Rivian R2 still interests the most. Everything else out there on the market for PEVs still feel too big or too small.
Although a family in our circle just traded their model Y for a Chevy Equinox EV. I'm a bit let down on the utility aspect of it, namely tow ratings. But the price is attractive.
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PurplePackage
Those slate trucks will sell out. The only problem is plastic body panels aren't going to do shit in a crash, and if there is no engine to take the blow, your bones are the strongest thing in the cab.
The super structure of a car is what absorbs and dissipates the energy of a crash. An engine is much more of a danger to have in a car than not, hence they are currently designed to move away from the engine compartment. Usually they leave the car completely, making modern crashes look worse than they are.
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obsolete
The super structure of a car is what absorbs and dissipates the energy of a crash. An engine is much more of a danger to have in a car than not, hence they are currently designed to move away from the engine compartment. Usually they leave the car completely, making modern crashes look worse than they are.
the original VW beetle was better than many cars today, without shoulder belts, without airbags, optimal unibody construction
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Originally Posted by
PurplePackage
The only problem is plastic body panels aren't going to do shit in a crash, and if there is no engine to take the blow, your bones are the strongest thing in the cab.
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Originally Posted by
Point37
how were saturns in crashes?...those had plastic body panels i believe
Modern cars are basically roll cages with body panels. People said the same thing about aluminum panels when Audi first started doing it. Crash test results are crash test results. The panels are the stylistic dressing, not the actual structure.
It does suck for us on the insurance side since basically everything is a yard sale/total loss that drives up premiums. I don't see it as a safety issue though.
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e30addict
Modern cars are basically roll cages with body panels. People said the same thing about aluminum panels when Audi first started doing it. Crash test results are crash test results. The panels are the stylistic dressing, not the actual structure.
It does suck for us on the insurance side since basically everything is a yard sale/total loss that drives up premiums. I don't see it as a safety issue though.
Yeah, if you wear your seatbelt in a modern car crashes that kill you are wild or odd. Multiple rolls, you'll probably walk out.
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csmutty
This is interesting. I can't see giving up the maverick for it but the price point is right up my alley. As is the simplicity.
If the price ends up being at or above $20k, I would think the Maverick would be a better value proposition to most buyers. If it's under $20k I could even see getting one.
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obsolete
The super structure of a car is what absorbs and dissipates the energy of a crash. An engine is much more of a danger to have in a car than not, hence they are currently designed to move away from the engine compartment. Usually they leave the car completely, making modern crashes look worse than they are.
Reminds me when two Porches collided and the engine ripped out of one of them https://www.thedrive.com/news/big-cr...ngine-from-car
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https://www.motortrend.com/news/2027...st-look-review
This is getting deposit the second they start taking them. Base model for me with crank windows please.
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OneCheekRider
If the price ends up being at or above $20k, I would think the Maverick would be a better value proposition to most buyers. If it's under $20k I could even see getting one.
Reminds me when two Porches collided and the engine ripped out of one of them
https://www.thedrive.com/news/big-cr...ngine-from-car
a zillion years ago, between surveying jobs, I drove a wrecker for a short time, we had a call to pick up a Beetle that was run over by a dump truck (driver survived with minimal injury) I swear nothing over 2ft tall, there was an undamaged turn signal/parking lens. Too slow getting on 89, rear ended at transition of on ramp and highway
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boosten lebaron
Only thing is that it's rwd for the 2wd model. Should have been fwd.
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Originally Posted by
OneCheekRider
If the price ends up being at or above $20k, I would think the Maverick would be a better value proposition to most buyers. If it's under $20k I could even see getting one.
Reminds me when two Porches collided and the engine ripped out of one of them
https://www.thedrive.com/news/big-cr...ngine-from-car
Yup, engine and steering column intrusion into the passenger compartment was an issue that hurt/killed. Telescoping steering columns and engine compartment design that deflects the engine in a safe direction were great developments in crash safety.
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Point37
how were saturns in crashes?...those had plastic body panels i believe
objectively, they were poor in a crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3MtaQRp0DA
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PurplePackage
C8 Corvette is all plastic and no front engine and is 5 star crash ratings.
The exterior panels for anything other than maybe a Cybertruck have negligible relevance during car accidents.
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PurplePackage
That was for that model. Other older models faired better. The plastic wasn't the issue, the design was.
https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle...oor-sedan/2000
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e30addict
eh, it looks like thats correct. I remember the Fiero was terrible for safety and liked to be on fire but it did have a 5 star crash test. Their plastic minivans didn't though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontia...rt_SE_IIHS.jpg
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I prefer composite over metal or "plastic" or fiberglass, carbon fiber has a place though
I did a fair amount of research when I bought my side cases for my V-Strom. Although esthetically, I really liked the look of aluminum, it dents, tears, I ended up with Pelican cases, plastic cracks and break I've had collision contact with the Pelicans and just rubbed the dust off, both times would have totally destroyed aluminum or plastic
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boosten lebaron
Put a deposit down for two Slates. You can build them out afterwards but there is no pricing for anything yet so it's just a thing to play with. They have an impressive array of things you can change. It looks like there business model is that the main factory will produce the base truck and the dealer network\remote workshops\service centers will add in all the options you want before you take delivery. I'm leaning towards the beach model with the roll bars out back and removable doors.
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Originally Posted by
boosten lebaron
Put a deposit down for two Slates. You can build them out afterwards but there is no pricing for anything yet so it's just a thing to play with. They have an impressive array of things you can change. It looks like there business model is that the main factory will produce the base truck and the dealer network\remote workshops\service centers will add in all the options you want before you take delivery. I'm leaning towards the beach model with the roll bars out back and removable doors.
I bet used cybertruck is the better deal by the time these slates are rolling around town.