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Re: Here comes the electric pickup
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boosten lebaron
That same logic tells you to sell the Sierra for $25,000, buy something for $10,000 and put $15,000 into the market. Then it also tells you to sell that $10,000 vehicle and buy $5,000 vehicle you put 5,000 in the market. And so on and so on.
The Sierra was bought by my business and 179'd because it met the size rules.
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Re: Here comes the electric pickup
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Originally Posted by
boosten lebaron
That same logic tells you to sell the Sierra for $25,000, buy something for $10,000 and put $15,000 into the market. Then it also tells you to sell that $10,000 vehicle and buy $5,000 vehicle you put 5,000 in the market. And so on and so on.
that was my MO in the past, get something for <$5k /<200k miles, hard to do that anymore $5k will get you a rotted frame here in New England, my current truck, '16 Frontier 138k miles, solid frame/body paid $13k, the market for something clean & reasonable miles is about 12k-18k from my last truck shopping venture
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boosten lebaron
Again. It depends on your drive. If your only going like 10 miles a day and the car sits at home most of the time then lvl 1 can keep up. Or it catches up on the weekend if you work m-f. But if your driving a good distance all the time then it won't work. But it's handy if you go to the movies or a friend's house so you can use the lvl 1 to vampire power while your there.
For my truck use, it often sits for a week or more, lvl 1 would cover 90% of my needs.
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You can always hack it together using both 120V sides and a beefy extension cord.
If you know what you're doing, its about as dangerous as licking a spoon.
If you don't know what you're doing, ¡todo lo enfuego!
https://www.steam-brite.com/portable...r-p-13454.html
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PurplePackage
But it still suffers from low amps. Probably see 10-15 miles an hour charge rate. My 110v on a 15 amp breaker was 4 miles per hour charge rate and my 240v on a 50amp breaker sees 40 miles per hour charge rate.
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Interesting chats, a lot of “this will/won’t work for me”
YMMV
I still think PHEV pickup or an eREV would be best for most people
The Maverick hybrid did a great job
I am in an EV Q6 but the free charging expires in Sept and I am way over on the miles. I’d rather buy a slightly used PHEV
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I'm super interested in the "eREV" things. That could be enough to get me to part with some money. Especially when they start talking about whole house backup supply.
A Maverick sized thing would probably do me just fine. Although the Ram 1500 REV looks super interesting. Overkill for me. And the $60k starting price isn't ideal. Something mid or compact sized, capable of pulling ~5k lbs, seating 5 and priced in the $40k ballpark would be ideal. Make it a 7 passenger mini-van and you can have my money.
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If there was a PHEV mid size truck I’d be all over it.
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I was thinking about that too; a little bigger than the Maverick, and could be bought as either a 4-runner sized SUV/minivan for the family folk (optional mini 3rd row) or midsize pickup. PHEV or eREV/REV for the drivetrain
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I'm interested in seeing the service intervals for the eR part of the eREV. I can see someone filling the tank up once a year or less and it all goes to stale gas shit.
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PurplePackage
I'm interested in seeing the service intervals for the eR part of the eREV. I can see someone filling the tank up once a year or less and it all goes to stale gas shit.
I only filled my Frontier 4 times last year, twice so far this year,
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PurplePackage
I'm interested in seeing the service intervals for the eR part of the eREV. I can see someone filling the tank up once a year or less and it all goes to stale gas shit.
Based on what they did with the PHEV 4XE models: Oil change int based on oil life monitor. If you go long periods without adding gas or burning it, the truck will occasionally throw you into forced generator mode to keep the gas mixed, engine oil brought up to temp to burn out excess moisture, etc.
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Kurlon
Based on what they did with the PHEV 4XE models: Oil change int based on oil life monitor. If you go long periods without adding gas or burning it, the truck will occasionally throw you into forced generator mode to keep the gas mixed, engine oil brought up to temp to burn out excess moisture, etc.
That makes sense, but it sucks if you're burning thru the full tank of gas even when it's $4/gallon and you're at 80% battery.
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On my Jeep, it was about 2 months before it'd force the issue, and then it basically wanted to get the oil up above 200F for 20mins or so, then it'd go back to batt only mode if that is what was requested. So you're not going to burn off a full tank, and it didn't really hammer the motor either. In the winter time, some owners were blocking off their radiators in really cold states so the oil would get up to min temp and out of that state.
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Am I reading that right that Ram is going to be first to market with a "eREV"? The PHEV "4XE" jeep line interested me. Sad it didn't make it to the Gladiator. While my wife has an irrational hate for Jeep and I have no particular love for Chrystler/whatever they are now, they seem to have a more interesting lineup.
Where the hell is Ford now? Last I read they were canceling the Lightning (which I could not justify paying for) in favor of more cost conscious PHEV options with much smaller batteries. Lets see those!
Or Toyota for that matter. A PHEV "prime" tacoma would be dope. The "iforce" line is pretty underhwelming. I still get an itch for a Rav4 prime every now and then.
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PurplePackage
That makes sense, but it sucks if you're burning thru the full tank of gas even when it's $4/gallon and you're at 80% battery.
Sucks more to repair shit that burning a few $ worth of gas would help prevent.
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nhbubba
Am I reading that right that Ram is going to be first to market with a "eREV"? The PHEV "4XE" jeep line interested me. Sad it didn't make it to the Gladiator. While my wife has an irrational hate for Jeep and I have no particular love for Chrystler/whatever they are now, they seem to have a more interesting lineup.
Where the hell is Ford now? Last I read they were canceling the Lightning (which I could not justify paying for) in favor of more cost conscious PHEV options with much smaller batteries. Lets see those!
Or Toyota for that matter. A PHEV "prime" tacoma would be dope. The "iforce" line is pretty underhwelming. I still get an itch for a Rav4 prime every now and then.
This was a few weeks ago, and it fits the thread. https://insideevs.com/reviews/728293...v-specs-range/
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Originally Posted by
nhbubba
Am I reading that right that Ram is going to be first to market with a "eREV"? The PHEV "4XE" jeep line interested me. Sad it didn't make it to the Gladiator. While my wife has an irrational hate for Jeep and I have no particular love for Chrystler/whatever they are now, they seem to have a more interesting lineup.
Where the hell is Ford now? Last I read they were canceling the Lightning (which I could not justify paying for) in favor of more cost conscious PHEV options with much smaller batteries. Lets see those!
Or Toyota for that matter. A PHEV "prime" tacoma would be dope. The "iforce" line is pretty underhwelming. I still get an itch for a Rav4 prime every now and then.
The 4xe model line up has basically ruined jeep. Terrible design and so so many problems. The one smart thing jeep did was not role it out faster. Those systems are failing within a few months.of purchase. Or catching fire. Almost no resalability.
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LuvDog
For now, my charging at work is free. That's assuming I stay at my current job
I'd say I was lucky to get 17MPG in my last truck, but that's what it said it would get combined.
My weekly commute is 300+ miles
If we say $4 per gallon
$4 x (300 Mile Commute / 17 MPG) x 50 weeks a year (take 2 weeks of vacation) = ~$3500 and if I got more lke 15mpg then it would be $4000 per year in gas alone. Let's assume no other maintenance
So in 5 years, that's about a $20,000 offset on the price of a ICE vehicle.
So the Rivian is still more than $20k over some new trucks. $ for $ it's still not in favor of the EV here.
And that's also assuming gas prices stay at $4. If/when they go down then the economics go even further the wrong way for an EV.
But I'm still going to go look at one this weekend.
Did you ever check out the Rivian? I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
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boosten lebaron
The 4xe model line up has basically ruined jeep. Terrible design and so so many problems. The one smart thing jeep did was not role it out faster. Those systems are failing within a few months.of purchase. Or catching fire. Almost no resalability.
Primary pain point has been the Samsung battery pack being a piece of shit. Otherwise the system was ok. Despite the recalls if I didn't have larger towing ambitions, I'd likely still be in a 4XE 'cause it was a good fit for my drive patterns. I'd have preferred a Toyota Prius style setup instead of just replacing a the torque converter with a motor arrangement they opted for, would have been much more efficient and I think would have delivered even BETTER offroad versatility than the full gassers, standard or automatic. Use an independent rear axle / motor like a Highlander, just have an option to clutch in a driveshaft to the front for 'locked up' 4X4 times.
And they sold like hotcakes, dealerships couldn't keep them in stock, they topped PHEV / Hybrid sales for quite awhile. With the majority never actually getting plugged in...
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The cards were stacked in the 4xe favor. You couldn't even buy a non 4xe in mass unless you special ordered one. And the entire line has been killed off in just a few years. If it was just a battery issue they would have fixed it. It was a total system failure and no fix was ever going to be enough. It followed the stelantis philosophy of no one asked for it and no one wants it but we are going to give it to them and we are going to implement it as poorly as possible.
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Kurlon
Primary pain point has been the Samsung battery pack being a piece of shit. Otherwise the system was ok. Despite the recalls if I didn't have larger towing ambitions, I'd likely still be in a 4XE 'cause it was a good fit for my drive patterns. I'd have preferred a Toyota Prius style setup instead of just replacing a the torque converter with a motor arrangement they opted for, would have been much more efficient and I think would have delivered even BETTER offroad versatility than the full gassers, standard or automatic. Use an independent rear axle / motor like a Highlander, just have an option to clutch in a driveshaft to the front for 'locked up' 4X4 times.
And they sold like hotcakes, dealerships couldn't keep them in stock, they topped PHEV / Hybrid sales for quite awhile. With the majority never actually getting plugged in...
Not to be a total shill, but newest R1T max range does 400+ miles and tows 11,000. I'll just be leaving this link here.
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PurplePackage
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The first model to use this new architecture will be a mid-size pickup truck that's will offer more interior space than a Toyota RAV4, according to Ford CEO Jim Farley. That's without the truck bed and front trunk.
Oh reaaaaaaly!
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PurplePackage
Not to be a total shill, but newest R1T max range does 400+ miles and tows 11,000. I'll just be leaving
this link here.
And... I'm in Maine, infra is still shit here, there are times that charging isn't an option, or I'm not able to extend my travel time to account for he extra delay when towing, etc. So for now, PHEV / range extended is my pref once available, gasser for now otherwise. Having an onboard air compressor is a nice touch though!
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Kurlon
And... I'm in Maine, infra is still shit here, there are times that charging isn't an option, or I'm not able to extend my travel time to account for he extra delay when towing, etc. So for now, PHEV / range extended is my pref once available, gasser for now otherwise. Having an onboard air compressor is a nice touch though!
I'm kind of impressed not on the decision to stick with gas but on the fact that you're towing more than 200 miles per day without the overnight planning to start the day with a full tank.
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When I tow distance, I'm referring to stuff like my 2100mi one way haul to Texas. I did that as a 3 day haul, 700mi a day. With my Jeep 4XE's smaller gas tank and much lighter trailer at the time I was stopping every 150mi to 200mi for gas. That was about my limit for safely driving. I did decide to do a double day on one trip back and that was pure stupid, my driving was shit towards the end and I needed to burn sick time to physically recover after getting home despite arriving one day earlier. Lengthening my fuel stops would have either cut down the miles per day I could do, or have me awake and driving for longer than I would feel comfortable doing. I did start my trips with a full batt, for what that was worth, along with a full tank of gas. Return trip was with a full tank of gas and mostly spent battery as no easy charging at the hotels / vrbos I was at.
Infrastructure wise, once I was in the south, charging on the main legs of the trip would become easy as all the big travel stops have options. But still, 30mins + vs 5mins to fuel up and go adds up quickly. The Rivian with 400mi est range would have me stopping to charge at about the same distance/freq as my 4XE. My gasser with the much heavier trailer should be able to do 250mi between stops based on what I'm seeing so far? Estimated numbers on the Ram REV would put me in the same ballpark? On the plus side, unlike with my 4XE where I did about 60% of my driving on batt (limited by the damn recall periods, so closer to 75% otherwise) I'd be able to do 90%+ on batt with the REV, and not have to think about it when I need to go further? The REV is a bad EV, it doesn't get anywhere near the miles per KWH say a Rivian does, and being a series hybrid it won't get the MPG on gas it could have with say a Toyota Prius style setup instead, but it hits that sweet spot of covering my day to day wants in EV mode and no effort distance duty, I can hit up chargers where convenient or just gas and go, either works. Edit: It also means I don't care if I only Lvl 1 charge it, if it doesn't top off in time, I just run it on gas.