NHMS 2012 Suggestions?

[Woodcraft]

any idea if next year will have 7 or 8 rounds?

I was told that it was definitely 7.

[Woodcraft]

Eric, if you are still taking votes;
1) Registration- If we pre-register and pay online, why cant we just print a tech sheet out and take it to tech. Somehow at all the NJMP CCS events I can get done in 10-15 min what takes 1 1/2 hrs at Loudon. Kind of makes "pre-entry" a waste.
2) Penguin practice- Please let us get lap times, thats what practice is for, right?
3) Grid waves. For me its crazy that the 125s start before expert ptwins. They should start behind us like they did at the classic. The race that Jeff and Shane raced. We catch them soon and often and it tends to be some un-needed hairy passing.
4) I think thats it and know the EX mafia is with me on these points.

1) I am 100% with you on this one. I have suggested this very same thing on several occasions, and I think that we are inching towards getting it done for next year.
2) ....maybe that's what it's for, maybe not. I use practice to work on specific things, not always to put in a killer overall lap. The problem is that running the timing and scoring system takes several people - who are not there on Friday. I'll look into what can be easily done.
3) I would pose that to Steve Aspland. There are so few of those 125's I'm surprised that it's any real trouble at all. A 125 GP should be able to go faster than an EX500 any day of the week (fast guys do 1:15 - 1:16). Waves are set up by what the bike is supposed to be able to do.....
4) OK.....I'll pass the wishes of the BJ clan on to the powers that be.

[Jim]

an issue a few of my garage mates mentioned is the fact that registration closes at 8:00, but tech closes at 7:30 on fridays. wouldnt it make sense to have tech open after registration? maybe swap the closing times on those two?

[CBR929RE]

2) Penguin practice- Please let us get lap times, thats what practice is for, right?

2) ....maybe that's what it's for, maybe not. I use practice to work on specific things, not always to put in a killer overall lap. The problem is that running the timing and scoring system takes several people - who are not there on Friday. I'll look into what can be easily done.

aren't there also things with insurance? like a street rider taking the school can still file an insurance claim if something happens. I've always heard it has to be a non-timed event for the insurance to even consider it.

[Woodcraft]

I honestly have not looked at the insurance thing.....that's a question for someone with more expertise in that field.

As for swapping registration and tech times....that certainly makes sense to me.

[Jim]

As for swapping registration and tech times....that certainly makes sense to me.

thanks Eric. there were a few Fridays where i would fight through Boston traffic and rush to registration, then find the tech garage is closed for the night. i know a few garage mates had the same thing happen to them this season.

[Awesome]

aren't there also things with insurance? like a street rider taking the school can still file an insurance claim if something happens. I've always heard it has to be a non-timed event for the insurance to even consider it.

That used to be the story at trackdays, for the most part insurance will no longer cover anything regardless if it's timed or not.

[daviid]

I honestly have not looked at the insurance thing.....that's a question for someone with more expertise in that field.

As for swapping registration and tech times....that certainly makes sense to me.

when i spoke to K&K a while back they told me timing was a moot issue. and that my rates would be the same whether i was racing or doing a track day

[Kitt]

Any plans developing to make a smaller, regularly scheduled, true supermoto course?

[Woodcraft]

Any plans developing to make a smaller, regularly scheduled, true supermoto course?

That would be good if they could do it and promote it properly. It would have ot be easy to set up and also not wreck any of the NASCAR camping areas. If someone has an idea of how/where to do it, I bet they would listen.

Suggestions?

[OreoGaborio]

I bet you could set something up pretty easily out back in the NASCAR parking areas... problem being a lack of facilities and maybe insurance, since the areas out back aren't part of the "track"?

[mzdagrl]

We were told their plan is to have it on labor day just like they did last year and the years before.

What I heard too. This year the day was a full one, but I think the enduro would have maintained a larger LRRS crowd, and possibly spurred more LRRS/CCS entries (hawks, EXs, etc.) in the enduro itself. Not that it wasn't hard enough keeping track of 7 bikes and 28ish riders without the jumbotron going.....

[mzdagrl]

oh, and more saturday shenanigans

[timmyho414]

This is a small one but I think of it every weekend. Could we get a heads up on the track conditions or start time BEFORE 8:00?
Running in group one we could be on track, clock running run at 8:00 one day then an hour delay(fog) then 8:05 next time. Sometimes we do get a heads up, which is nice but not always. Its just kind of confusing/frustrating.
At least next year I should have a 15 min heads up.

[Woodcraft]

This is a small one but I think of it every weekend. Could we get a heads up on the track conditions or start time BEFORE 8:00?
Running in group one we could be on track, clock running run at 8:00 one day then an hour delay(fog) then 8:05 next time. Sometimes we do get a heads up, which is nice but not always. Its just kind of confusing/frustrating.
At least next year I should have a 15 min heads up.

Fair enough. Since we started racing at the new racetrack back in 1990, I can think of three days taht got delayed in the morning due to weather - 2 of them were this year.

If you look up at the hill and can't see it, chances are that we'll be delayed.....

[xsiliconkid]

aren't there also things with insurance? like a street rider taking the school can still file an insurance claim if something happens. I've always heard it has to be a non-timed event for the insurance to even consider it.

take a close look at your insurance contract fine print. Many have included language something like, "any type of closed circuit activity, is not covered".

[CBR929RE]

take a close look at your insurance contract fine print. Many have included language something like, "any type of closed circuit activity, is not covered".

yeah that type of stuff is what I was thinking. I don't have insurance on either of my bikes. I was just wondering for others. I wouldn't claim a race track crash anyway.

[timmyho414]

Fair enough. Since we started racing at the new racetrack back in 1990, I can think of three days taht got delayed in the morning due to weather - 2 of them were this year.

If you look up at the hill and can't see it, chances are that we'll be delayed.....

The fog was kind of obvious.
There have been time when the corner workers found something on the track and had to clean it up(Thank you corner worker!). It would just be nice if we could get a "so far the track looks good looks like we'll be on at 8:00" or "corner worker need some time looks like 8:10" I know its only 10minutes and not a big deal but it would be nice.
I've had my helmet on and had to take it off and sit for a while(not a big deal) and other times waited to get the call and the clock was already running, losing a lap or two.
I read this and feel like a cry baby but it would be so easy to change and it is the only thing I think of every weekend.

[Kurlon]

That's why a lot of us bring scanners to listen to the corner worker chatter, helps eliminate a ton of confusion.

[Woodcraft]

The fog was kind of obvious.
There have been time when the corner workers found something on the track and had to clean it up(Thank you corner worker!). It would just be nice if we could get a "so far the track looks good looks like we'll be on at 8:00" or "corner worker need some time looks like 8:10" I know its only 10minutes and not a big deal but it would be nice.
I've had my helmet on and had to take it off and sit for a while(not a big deal) and other times waited to get the call and the clock was already running, losing a lap or two.
I read this and feel like a cry baby but it would be so easy to change and it is the only thing I think of every weekend.

This isn't hard... so I'll bring it up

[union]

The fog was kind of obvious.
There have been time when the corner workers found something on the track and had to clean it up(Thank you corner worker!). It would just be nice if we could get a "so far the track looks good looks like we'll be on at 8:00" or "corner worker need some time looks like 8:10" I know its only 10minutes and not a big deal but it would be nice.
I've had my helmet on and had to take it off and sit for a while(not a big deal) and other times waited to get the call and the clock was already running, losing a lap or two.
I read this and feel like a cry baby but it would be so easy to change and it is the only thing I think of every weekend.

This isn't hard... so I'll bring it up

It all starts with getting the PA system working properly. Im lucky to be in a garage not far from the starter so I can run out and see whats going on but I shouldnt have to. It seems when its important the message never comes through and when its not its deafening.

[butcher bergs]

I am convinced the entire issue with the PA system has to do with that blasted wireless microphone.

We tried using it at our final track day and did not get very good results. Ended up doing it the old fashioned way with the Tech Garage mic.

[timmyho414]

Thanks Eric, for all your work on LRRS.

As for the PA, Eric said on the first page it was being addressed so I didn't mention it or any of the other good things that were brought up.

I pit next to Eric and end up trying to listen to his scanner. Maybe its time I buy my own...I'll look to see if there's a thread about which ones people like. If there isn't one I'll start a new thread in "pit".

[Woodcraft]

It looks like there will be a rules meeting held at the banquet, and there i spossibly going to be a forum of sorts for riders to make suggestions. I've been making notes about many of the things in this thread, and I am happy to bring up anything else that is suggested here as well.

So, keep the comments flowing.....

[Jim]

this might be a stretch, but is there anyway to add some Access Points in the garages for the Media Center WiFi ?

cell signal for AT&T and some non Sprint phones isn't the best at the track & many of us use the mobile app to check lap times, results, and grids.