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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Can someone help explain to me what a vehicle being bulletproof accomplishes?

    Besides adding a lot of weight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Can someone help explain to me what a vehicle being bulletproof accomplishes?

    Besides adding a lot of weight...
    Side effect of strong thin steel structure. Lighter and larger than rivian.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Can someone help explain to me what a vehicle being bulletproof accomplishes?

    Besides adding a lot of weight...
    It makes it "tactical". Cause that's cool.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

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    Side effect of strong thin steel structure. Lighter and larger than rivian.
    Why wouldn't you make it thinner? It doesn't need to be structural since they ditched that idea... Your 1950's lead sled is calling you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Why wouldn't you make it thinner? It doesn't need to be structural since they ditched that idea... Your 1950's lead sled is calling you...
    Cause the DeLorian is made of stainless and it seems like Elon has been enjoying the peruvian marching powder. Not too many logical steps while thinking of new business plans with your buddy in the handicap stall of a bar.

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    300 series austenitic stainless is prone to work hardening and fatigue failure. Wonder if there will be any symptoms of that as they get older...

    The DeLorian never stayed running long enough for fatigue to occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    300 series austenitic stainless is prone to work hardening and fatigue failure. Wonder if there will be any symptoms of that as they get older...

    The DeLorian never stayed running long enough for fatigue to occur.
    Can you just enjoy the joke

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    Cause the DeLorian is made of stainless and it seems like Elon has been enjoying the peruvian marching powder. Not too many logical steps while thinking of new business plans with your buddy in the handicap stall of a bar.
    Does the lack of deformation in crashes etc... have extrication consequences or is it irrelevant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Why wouldn't you make it thinner? It doesn't need to be structural since they ditched that idea... Your 1950's lead sled is calling you...
    Because they didn’t ditch that idea and it is structural.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    first slightly humorous thing the genius has done in years



    $55 seems a bit steep, but as usual the disciples lapped it up faster than this softball pitch the 2nd time.


    MAY be "bullet proof" but it would appear the windows are still stained glass....

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    One of those clips talks about firing an ice ball at the window at like 60mph, with the reviewer sitting in it. Sounds pretty strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Does the lack of deformation in crashes etc... have extrication consequences or is it irrelevant?
    Lack of deformation would be welcomed as it maintains a shape you know how to defeat, in theory. Extrication always becomes more challenging when you have parts that you use for leverage that have been compromised. That's part of my problem with training past the basic level with cars that are intact. You need to have a few tactics in mind to accomplish each goal. You can't roll a dash using a ram on the a piller and base of the b piller if one of them isn't there and etc. But that's the fun right? Cutting up a car that is completely intact should be the easiest thing you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    I would absolutely say you do not know any diesel bros. I know a bunch and unless ICE vehicles are abolished, they will not own an EV. Like ever. It is an afront to their perceived masculinity. Hard stop.
    Here comes the electric pickup-screenshot_20231203-164239-jpg

    Diesel bro FB page. 4k comments shitting on the Cybertruck. I really have 0 idea where Vov is getting that point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Does the lack of deformation in crashes etc... have extrication consequences or is it irrelevant?
    Also, I don't think the stainless skin will hurt and may help. Aluminum bodies are actually harder because the peel apart and tear where steel crumples, piles up and has a harder time tearing. I've never forced stainless so I'd actually be curious to see how it would react to the being pushed.

    We've cut a few aluminum cars open and not getting a full depth purchase into the door jam has it tearing very quick. The same can happen with sheet metal it just doesn't happen nearly as easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    Can you just enjoy the joke
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmycapp View Post
    Because they didn’t ditch that idea and it is structural.
    Sorry can't keep track of this flip flopping dumpster fire of a vehicle.

    Cybertruck fanboys:

    Here comes the electric pickup-555120c7897457420c704f71e86d9f9a32424fb648e4fbbd2fff2661e5ea95e0_1-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmycapp View Post
    Side effect of strong thin steel structure. Lighter and larger than rivian.
    Rivian has aluminum bodywork, 4 motors, and a 10kWh larger battery. CT has a smaller battery and 3 motors. I'd hope it's lighter, but only by 60lbs? That stainless must weigh a good amount, though the few shots I've seen of people opening/closing the doors don't seem to indicate they are abnormally heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstDuc-1098 View Post
    You do realize that's not real, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vovchandr View Post
    Watch Tesla reinvent the plow somehow next
    For residential and residential/commercial snow plowing, I can't imagine a better platform than an electric truck. No transmissions, no excess wheelspin, tons of weight/traction, super easy forward/backwards operation, gobs of torque.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    no excess wheelspin
    I’ve not seen much vid of evs in snow, but what I’ve seen of them offroad, compared to a traditional 4WD they wheelspin like crazy. Seeing a Rivian at Moab made me wonder if they were going to get EVs banned for doing the opposite of ‘tread lightly’. I’m curious to see how Jeep tackles this when they full EV a Wrangler replacement, I’m expecting a means to engage/disengage a center diff/connection between front and rear axles, and the option to lock it up, though that’ll impact the efficiency and packaging.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    If you are TRYING to spin the tires (turn off traction control and put it in Rally mode), then sure, all that HP/Torque will easily do so.

    But if you just want traction, the EV's with independent motors for each wheel have a huge advantage being able to limit wheel spin as well as ABS limits wheel lock.

    When I stopped on my driveway hill last winter in the truck on snow, then tried to go, it just silently creeped so smoothly up the hill no matter how much I buried the skinny pedal.

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    There were times my Highlander could do a similar stunt, dual motor with open diffs though and no amount of brake simulated diff locking could get it out of some scenarios that my jeep with worse tires laughs at. Not fully apples to apples with a four motor setup though so I’ll stand by on final judgement till I can play personally.

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    Rivian has aluminum bodywork, 4 motors, and a 10kWh larger battery. CT has a smaller battery and 3 motors. I'd hope it's lighter, but only by 60lbs? That stainless must weigh a good amount, though the few shots I've seen of people opening/closing the doors don't seem to indicate they are abnormally heavy.
    I'm kinda shocked this thing doesn't weigh a lot more than it does. It is essentially made of 1/8" thick steel panels, and steel is REALLY heavy. The entire car is essentially made of 1950's chrome bumper material.

    Supposedly they save weight because it's a unibody rather than a "body on skateboard" design, but if there's no skateboard then what's protecting the batteries? The whole idea of the skateboard is that you need a lot of structure down there to protect the batteries anyway, may as well use what you've got and remove weight from the top of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    You do realize that's not real, right?

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