Here comes the electric pickup

[PurplePackage]

The trads with new EV designs really need to do better with cargo space if they want to actually be considered useful. Here's the new Macan:



Here's the old Model 3:

[gixxer72]

yes but that is with 400v supercharger station. we still don't know what 800v recharge time looks like. It could be as low as 20 minutes.

Still way too frequent and way too long. I’ll be watching the development/advances…

[csmutty]

When I was in Sweden 2 years ago I don't remember many ICE vehicles. It was crazy.

I've never been to either of those places. Are things close within communities? The US is so spread out that there are challenges with transportation, including public transportation.

[e30addict]

I've never been to either of those places. Are things close within communities? The US is so spread out that there are challenges with transportation, including public transportation.

Sweden is roughly the same size as California and has a third the population. It's also one of the most socially progressive countries.

They think differently then the average American and swim more in the same direction. IKEA just announced price decreases even when faced rising costs because it's the right thing to do. Good luck getting an American company to do that.

That said, pretty sure there are more EVs in CA then there are in Sweden.

[Stoneman]

The trads with new EV designs really need to do better with cargo space if they want to actually be considered useful. Here's the new Macan:



Here's the old Model 3:

Does the rear cargo area of the Macan get taken up by batteries? From personal experience, the rear cargo area is fairly decent for a sporty SUV. I don't really see much of a need for a front cargo area.

[PurplePackage]

Does the rear cargo area of the Macan get taken up by batteries? From personal experience, the rear cargo area is fairly decent for a sporty SUV. I don't really see much of a need for a front cargo area.

I think Porsche filled up the front of the SUV with plumbing and HVAC stuff. They really could do better. Lucid knows what's up:

[FriskyDingo]

I know that's one of my big priorities for a vehicle purchase, can I lounge in the frunk


whereas I bet porsche wasted all of that space with additional cooling capabilities and duplicate systems for durability and driving enjoyment.... silly car MFG...

[PurplePackage]

I know that's one of my big priorities for a vehicle purchase, can I lounge in the frunk


whereas I bet porsche wasted all of that space with additional cooling capabilities and duplicate systems for durability and driving enjoyment.... silly car MFG...

It is wasted, not being sarcastic, from a buyer perspective. They did much worse packaging compared to Tesla, Lucid, Rivian, and even the Ford Mustang. If buyers are coming from something that has huge frunk space and then decide to upgrade their EV, it better fit more than before.

[RandyO]

V8 electric motor

https://www.facebook.com/reel/866735748448720

[Garandman]

When I was in Sweden 2 years ago I don't remember many ICE vehicles. It was crazy.

Plug ins are as much as 75% of new sales. Due to HUGE tax incentives. Keep in mind Swedish population is roughly that of CT+MA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...cles_in_Sweden

[SteveM]

Plug ins are as much as 75% of new sales. Due to HUGE tax incentives. Keep in mind Swedish population is roughly that of CT+MA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...cles_in_Sweden

Damn Socialists using social and tax policy to ram their agendas down the working man’s throat.

[e30addict]

Plug ins are as much as 75% of new sales. Due to HUGE tax incentives. Keep in mind Swedish population is roughly that of CT+MA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-i...cles_in_Sweden

What I find interesting about that is that plug ins are the vast majority. It makes me wonder how many people actually plug them in vs utilize them as more of a big battery hybrid.

I know if I was shopping for a new car and I got fat rebate to buy a plug in version of a hybrid instead I would do that. A full EV is a different story.

[obsolete]

I've never been to either of those places. Are things close within communities? The US is so spread out that there are challenges with transportation, including public transportation.

Most of the US is designed around having a car. Most of Europe is not. We could certainly benefit from a similar investment in public transportation.

[LuvDog]

Mrs LuvDog got a PHEV for her new car. So far it's been great. Just over 3 months in, and 2 round trips to NYC and all the other driving and she's only put gas in it twice.

[csmutty]

Mrs LuvDog got a PHEV for her new car. So far it's been great. Just over 3 months in, and 2 round trips to NYC and all the other driving and she's only put gas in it twice.

Really wish they had a PHEV version of the Maverick.

[breakdirt916]

^ this

I think they have a plug in Escape IIRC

Still, 40mpg in a pickup is baaaaad asssness. I’m enjoying the truck minus the “slam” it makes when switching from regen to conventional braking at low speeds

[csmutty]

^ this

I think they have a plug in Escape IIRC

Still, 40mpg in a pickup is baaaaad asssness. I’m enjoying the truck minus the “slam” it makes when switching from regen to conventional braking at low speeds

I could make it to work on a charge without a doubt and there's a charger at work. It would be rare I'd have to touch gas.

Edit, apparently the escape has a range of 37 electric miles. That would do very well for me, but that also starts at $40k.

[e30addict]

That would do very well for me, but that also starts at $40k.

Before or after fuel savings discounts

[Point37]

Really wish they had a PHEV version of the Maverick.

i'd like a hybrid ridgeline

[breakdirt916]

Make it a PHEV with AWD with a base model priced around $25k and top tier at $45k and it would check a lot of boxes…and take a year to build each one LOL

[csmutty]

Make it a PHEV with AWD with a base model priced around $25k and top tier at $45k and it would check a lot of boxes…and take a year to build each one LOL

I think awd is a waste of money. I'll take fwd as specd.

They keep pushing the delivery date back for my mav.

[breakdirt916]

any idea why?

I have no idea what the latest maverick production updates are, but maybe you can drop commodity constraints items like a spray-in Bedliner or offer to switch to an iceboats

here was my timeline:
7/11/21: order confirmed
12/9/21: scheduled for production for 2/14/22
1/26/22: production date changed to 3/7/22
2/4/22: production date changed to 2/21/22
2/24/22: vehicle built
2/25/22: shipped
3/6/22: was driving it

just rolled 30k miles

[csmutty]

any idea why?

I have no idea what the latest maverick production updates are, but maybe you can drop commodity constraints items like a spray-in Bedliner or offer to switch to an iceboats

here was my timeline:
7/11/21: order confirmed
12/9/21: scheduled for production for 2/14/22
1/26/22: production date changed to 3/7/22
2/4/22: production date changed to 2/21/22
2/24/22: vehicle built
2/25/22: shipped
3/6/22: was driving it

just rolled 30k miles

It was built 12/23/23
Shipped 1/5/24
Every day I check the date for estimated delivery now it's moved back another day or two.

Right now it says estimated delivery 2/16-2/29.

[Kurlon]

If it's like Jeep, they ship by train first, so you have to wait for a large enough batch of vehicles going your way before it'll move.

[e30addict]

When I got my truck in 2022 the trucks built over the border we're taking months after being built. The ones built here showed up in a few weeks. No idea if shipping/customs bs is better or worse now but it might be quite a while.