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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Extra brake dust? I replaced pads on my Highlander due to age, not wear. No reason an EV would be different on that front.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Extra brake dust? I replaced pads on my Highlander due to age, not wear. No reason an EV would be different on that front.
    heavier car, harder to stop, more wear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Point37 View Post
    heavier car, harder to stop, more wear
    You're forgetting one detail, the majority of braking isn't done with the brakes. Depending on your driving, none of the braking may require the brakes.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Tell me you've never owned an EV without telling me you've never owned an EV.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    You're forgetting one detail, the majority of braking isn't done with the brakes. Depending on your driving, none of the braking may require the brakes.
    ahh good point...forgot about that

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Tell me you've never owned an EV without telling me you've never owned an EV.
    i've never owned an EV...now you know for sure...and i plan to be one of the very late adopters...with the rate at which the tech gets better and better i would rather wait till they dial it in vs be an early adopter

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Point37 View Post
    ahh good point...forgot about that



    i've never owned an EV...now you know for sure...and i plan to be one of the very late adopters...with the rate at which the tech gets better and better i would rather wait till they dial it in vs be an early adopter
    Even on a hybrid, if driven correctly, brakes last forever. I can get over 100k on them without trying hard. The caliper pins in the rear actually seize up from lack of use and cause more problems first. I started lubing them when I rotated tires to keep them fresh.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Even on a hybrid, if driven correctly, brakes last forever. I can get over 100k on them without trying hard. The caliper pins in the rear actually seize up from lack of use and cause more problems first. I started lubing them when I rotated tires to keep them fresh.
    I would like to hope so, you can get 100k on brakes with an ICE vehicle just by taking your foot off the gas before you get to the stop sign

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Tell me you've never owned an EV without telling me you've never owned an EV.
    I dislike this comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I would like to hope so, you can get 100k on brakes with an ICE vehicle just by taking your foot off the gas before you get to the stop sign
    Yeah, but you aren't gonna do that in an urban environment with an ICE vehicle. I went through Camry brakes in short order driving in Boston. Same driving in the same area netted 100k on the hybrid. Drive one in the sticks or lots of highway mileage and 100k would be childs.play for a hybrid too. Some people double that easily.

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    i think i've been through 2 sets of pads on my car in 235k...but that's a lot of highway miles

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Even on a hybrid, if driven correctly, brakes last forever. I can get over 100k on them without trying hard. The caliper pins in the rear actually seize up from lack of use and cause more problems first. I started lubing them when I rotated tires to keep them fresh.
    That's a good point. I'll have to add greasing the caliper pins to my rotating pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Yeah, but you aren't gonna do that in an urban environment with an ICE vehicle. I went through Camry brakes in short order driving in Boston. Same driving in the same area netted 100k on the hybrid. Drive one in the sticks or lots of highway mileage and 100k would be childs.play for a hybrid too. Some people double that easily.
    wanna bet? you wouldn't want to be behind me, there is no wear holding a stop, take your foot off the gas. The E30 I bought in Boxford ,MA, I drove home with no brakes (65mi), my Tacoma, drove home from Conway with no brakes (55mi), they are really only to keep you from rolling backward when stopped on a hill. now I'm thinking of it, I drove a lot with inadequate brakes in my youth. We all did stoopid sh!t, I still do.

    however at my current rate of driving 600 miles in 3 months between 2 vehicles, and add 2 motorcycles for summer months, I doubt I will ever put another 100k on a vehicle in my lifetime

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    wanna bet? you wouldn't want to be behind me, there is no wear holding a stop, take your foot off the gas. The E30 I bought in Boxford ,MA, I drove home with no brakes (65mi), my Tacoma, drove home from Conway with no brakes (55mi), they are really only to keep you from rolling backward when stopped on a hill. now I'm thinking of it, I drove a lot with inadequate brakes in my youth. We all did stoopid sh!t, I still do.

    however at my current rate of driving 600 miles in 3 months between 2 vehicles, and add 2 motorcycles for summer months, I doubt I will ever put another 100k on a vehicle in my lifetime
    Yeah, I'll bet you can't do that driving in Boston for 100k. People there will run you right off the road if you drive like that before you finish your first tank of gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Yeah, I'll bet you can't do that driving in Boston for 100k. People there will run you right off the road if you drive like that before you finish your first tank of gas.
    I believe ya, several years ago, when I bought a copy of ACAD from MTS, my office techs got a week of training in the package, We went to their Woburn store for the first day, never again, we did the rest of the training at their Yarmouth ME store, a parking lot on the way in, 80mph bumper cars on the way out, Yarmouth was a longer drive, but vacant secondary roads for the most part, barely a quarter mile of Rt 1 traffic

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    Someone in Maine owns an R1S, sharp looking SUV save for the front, I'm still not sold on Rivian's front light/grill setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    I'm still not sold on Rivian's front light/grill setup.
    Aren't you driving a Wrangler......

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    Yup, and I like it's aesthetics compared to the Rivian's front end. I love the Rivian look, save for that front headlight design. It just feels, cartoony compared to everything else?

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    I like the tic tac headlights.

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    And don’t love the new wrangler shrunken grill

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    I like the tic tac headlights.

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    And don’t love the new wrangler shrunken grill
    Well, we can agree on one out of two, the 24 update Wrangler grill IS a step backwards.

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    Shocker. If you don't charge your vehicle it doesn't run on electricity.

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    I loved the Pacifica 'example'... yeah, 45F out, you don't put it in EV only mode, and are surprised that while calling for heat it does it's best to meet the demand. No shit Sherlock. There is a button if you want it to drive pure EV, you have to TELL it that, otherwise it acts as an optimized hybrid and will use gas where it makes sense, IE it's more efficient generating heat via combustion than it is running the giant resistive heater, particularly if you're calling for the defroster.

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    Direct result of vehicles having more intelligence then the average idiot trying to drive. Steering wheel holders and button pushers who haven't the slightest idea how anything actually works.

    I'll never forget when the Prius first came out and one "superstar" salesman couldn't understand why the car wouldn't move when they ran out of gas

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    I don't like the idea of a 5-minute battery swap because they're huge, car wash sized machines. You can fit 20 superchargers in the same footprint. So wait 15 minutes in a line, plus 5 for the swap to get a full charge, or plug in and wait 20 minutes, while 19 others do the same.

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