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Here comes the electric pickup

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    When I got my truck in 2022 the trucks built over the border we're taking months after being built. The ones built here showed up in a few weeks. No idea if shipping/customs bs is better or worse now but it might be quite a while.
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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    I could make it to work on a charge without a doubt and there's a charger at work. It would be rare I'd have to touch gas.

    Edit, apparently the escape has a range of 37 electric miles. That would do very well for me, but that also starts at $40k.
    Two friends live and work in Boston area and have second gen Chevy Bolt. One of them uses so little gas the engine comes on as a maintenance cycle. Think they also come on if outside temp is less than 37° for heat.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Two friends live and work in Boston area and have second gen Chevy Bolt. One of them uses so little gas the engine comes on as a maintenance cycle. Think they also come on if outside temp is less than 37° for heat.
    if i lived within range to be able to drive from home to work and back home all on battery i would still buy a plug in hybrid instead of full electric...2 fuel sources > 1...and less replacement cost when the battery dies

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    The pike got new **60kw** "fast" charging stations. At least they're free to use.


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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Someone is going to make some money inventing the next guardrail tech that can handle the weight of EVs

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3VgE...V6NWtkYjR1cw==


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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Point37 View Post
    Someone is going to make some money inventing the next guardrail tech that can handle the weight of EVs

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3VgE...V6NWtkYjR1cw==


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    you do realize that a ton of $$$ has already been spent to upgrade from the cheese slicers. a better idea would be to turn EVs into slot cars that get their juice from the road (induction) and don't need the weight of a battery or lithium mines to make batteries

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Point37 View Post
    Someone is going to make some money inventing the next guardrail tech that can handle the weight of EVs

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3VgE...V6NWtkYjR1cw==


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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    you do realize that a ton of $$$ has already been spent to upgrade from the cheese slicers. a better idea would be to turn EVs into slot cars that get their juice from the road (induction) and don't need the weight of a battery or lithium mines to make batteries
    Induction wastes stupid amounts of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Induction wastes stupid amounts of power.
    or we could just cut slots in the road, but I think technology can overcome induction losses. How was Tesla going to transmit electricity over the air

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    or we could just cut slots in the road, but I think technology can overcome induction losses. How was Tesla going to transmit electricity over the air
    Technology can't overcome the basics of physics, the moment you start airgapping any power transmission you hit distance based losses that build up quickly. How was Tesla going to do it? Bad math plus massive losses but when your demands are small and grossly overgenerating isn't a concern, you don't sweat those minor details, this is no longer the last gasps of the 1800s though.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Technology can't overcome the basics of physics, the moment you start airgapping any power transmission you hit distance based losses that build up quickly. How was Tesla going to do it? Bad math plus massive losses but when your demands are small and grossly overgenerating isn't a concern, you don't sweat those minor details, this is no longer the last gasps of the 1800s though.
    new breakthroughs every day, knowledge of physics didn't stop with Newton

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/high-...last-20220921/


    https://phys.org/news/2024-02-alterm...echnology.html

    There is now a new addition to the magnetic family: thanks to experiments at the Swiss Light Source SLS, researchers have proved the existence of altermagnetism. The experimental discovery of this new branch of magnetism is reported in Nature and signifies new fundamental physics, with major implications for spintronics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    new breakthroughs every day, knowledge of physics didn't stop with Newton

    https://www.quantamagazine.org/high-...last-20220921/
    Superconductors don't change the power losses involved in air gapped induction power transmission. They also don't violate any basic laws of physics, even the oldies.

    What you should be more worried about, as this shift to directed / self driving traffic happens, know what's going to be legislated OFF the roads to keep the AI driven cars safe? Yeah, you and your scooter. Motorcycles will be first on the chopping block, then all human controlled vehicles will have the places they can operated reduced down to nothing.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Superconductors don't change the power losses involved in air gapped induction power transmission. They also don't violate any basic laws of physics, even the oldies.

    What you should be more worried about, as this shift to directed / self driving traffic happens, know what's going to be legislated OFF the roads to keep the AI driven cars safe? Yeah, you and your scooter. Motorcycles will be first on the chopping block, then all human controlled vehicles will have the places they can operated reduced down to nothing.
    ok if that's what you say Sir Isaac Newton, Power from the highway wall make AI driving much easier, it will be the slot so to speak that keeps the vehicle on the road, all vehicles will travel at same speed, no accidents, why because physics says so..... bs, like climate change, there will always be new discoveries in physics, otherwise ice wouldn't float

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    You... you think ice floating is somehow a physics breaking mystery?

    For real?

    Also, no need for physics breaking to implement automated speed limits and pack traveling, software can do that and if California has it's way, will be mandated to do so in all cars sold in Cali or mfg in Cali.

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    This guy is my morning entertainment

    Him and nuance merge as well as oil and water. (little physics pun? Why not)

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    The rich irony is this strong libertarian either wants to force everybody to buy this magical compliant cars to use this magic road or force people who chose not to have those cars to subsidise those that do. Sounds like socialism to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    You... you think ice floating is somehow a physics breaking mystery?

    For real?

    Also, no need for physics breaking to implement automated speed limits and pack traveling, software can do that and if California has it's way, will be mandated to do so in all cars sold in Cali or mfg in Cali.
    That would absolutely suck. I made it from downtown LA to my driveway in Phoenix in 5:10 yesterday including one fuel stop. Unmentionable speeds coming across the 10…

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxer72 View Post
    That would absolutely suck. I made it from downtown LA to my driveway in Phoenix in 5:10 yesterday including one fuel stop. Unmentionable speeds coming across the 10…
    Impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    Impressive.
    Yeah not really, I just had a pretty shitty attitude and an urgency to get back to AZ!

    The Stinkin Lincoln was a decent ride and willing participant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxer72 View Post
    Yeah not really, I just had a pretty shitty attitude and an urgency to get back to AZ!

    The Stinkin Lincoln was a decent ride and willing participant.
    I remember that being like 7.5-8 LA to PRC. Max speed of 60ish going thru the Banning Pass due to headwinds and shitty 4cyl econobox. Of course this was in the 90s and things were a little different then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e30addict View Post
    I remember that being like 7.5-8 LA to PRC. Max speed of 60ish going thru the Banning Pass due to headwinds and shitty 4cyl econobox. Of course this was in the 90s and things were a little different then.
    Had to look up where that was, long climb out of Palm Springs for sure! It’s amazing how quickly it changes from desert to “SoCal” once you hit Beaumont. It’s not my favorite drive, but I do it 5-6 times per year.

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    Re: Here comes the electric pickup

    Reality, the Market, & freedom of choice step in....
    Biden administration considers slowing key emissions rules – a potential blow to EV growth
    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/18/p...ion/index.html
    The Biden administration is considering relaxing stringent vehicle emissions rules it proposed last year, giving automakers more time to meet requirements that would make them sell more electric vehicles, according to two sources familiar with the plan.

    The Environmental Protection Agency’s vehicle emissions rule is a key plank of President Joe Biden’s climate agenda. Biden has made the transition to EVs a signature issue of his presidency, stressing the economic impacts in addition to the boost for the climate.

    Instead of a previously proposed rule that would rapidly increase the number of EVs sold to meet strict emissions requirements, the EPA is considering delaying these requirements until after 2030, the two people said. The EPA rule is still not finalized and is expected to be released in the spring.

    However, one source familiar with the plan said the EPA emissions rule will ultimately reduce nearly as much emissions as the original proposal – it will do it gradually and build in more flexibility for automakers in the beginning.

    When they unveiled their proposed vehicle emissions rule last April, EPA officials said they were considering several different emissions proposals, which could result in anywhere from a 64% to 69% electric vehicle adoption rate by early next decade, starting with model year 2027 vehicles.

    The New York Times first reported EPA was considering the change. An EPA spokesperson did not immediately return CNN’s request for comment.

    A top White House climate official stressed Biden’s commitment to the transition to electric vehicles.

    “We are harnessing the power of smart investments and standards to ensure U.S. workers will lead, not follow, the global auto sector,” White House national climate adviser Ali Zaidi said in a statement. “President Biden’s been consistent in moving us forward, accelerating U.S. leadership on this critical technology for our economy and environment.”

    But some advocates blasted the move as a concession to automakers, saying it reflects the reality that US legacy automakers are lagging far behind Tesla and Chinese EV companies like BYD.

    Automakers are “pretty much opposed to the rules,” Dan Becker, director of the safe climate transport campaign at the environmental group Center for Biological Diversity, told CNN in an interview. “They had fallen all over themselves to make EVs, they’re now trying to run the other way as fast as they can. They’re trying to wring the last profits they can out of gas guzzling vehicles.”

    The United Auto Workers union – a key group that recently endorsed Biden for president in 2024 – has long been sounding the alarm about what a shift to EVs means for their workers. And former President Donald Trump has railed against EVs in his speeches as he seeks the Republican nomination for president.
    and YES Randy, he's "buying" votes....

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    Rivian having a layoff, which is good, because they're growing too fast IMHO.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybo...tion-announced

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    Rivian having a layoff, which is good, because they're growing too fast IMHO.

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    Should be interesting. Can't say I have a lot of confidence it gets any further than these few prototypes.


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