Here comes the electric pickup

[csmutty]

I don't like the idea of a 5-minute battery swap because they're huge, car wash sized machines. You can fit 20 superchargers in the same footprint. So wait 15 minutes in a line, plus 5 for the swap to get a full charge, or plug in and wait 20 minutes, while 19 others do the same.

But it does solve some problems for people skeptical about battery replacement costs. Who says you're going to wait 15 minutes in line?

[Point37]

But it does solve some problems for people skeptical about battery replacement costs. Who says you're going to wait 15 minutes in line?

i assume you pay per swap?...what is the cost per swap?...or is this a yearly service fee?...also i would imagine the fasteners/hardware will take a beating if you're doing this constantly so i hope they design them well

[csmutty]

i assume you pay per swap?...what is the cost per swap?...or is this a yearly service fee?...also i would imagine the fasteners/hardware will take a beating if you're doing this constantly so i hope they design them well

I would think you would pay per swap. Annual service fee wouldn't make much sense.

I would think a swap without hardware would make the most sense. There are plenty of options to secure which don't involve threads directly.

[PurplePackage]

But it does solve some problems for people skeptical about battery replacement costs. Who says you're going to wait 15 minutes in line?

Queueing theroy does. If you only have 2 bays for a battery swap, you're going to spend a lot more time waiting than you are getting service. If you have 10 superchargers, there is no waiting for service.

[e30addict]

If you have 10 superchargers, there is no waiting for service.

Assuming they work

[gixxer72]

Good deals on a Fisker right now if you want an ass ugly EV. Parts/service likely to become challenging soon.

[csmutty]

Queueing theroy does. If you only have 2 bays for a battery swap, you're going to spend a lot more time waiting than you are getting service. If you have 10 superchargers, there is no waiting for service.

Do you currently wait for a gas pump? I know I haven't waited for a gas pump in years...

[PurplePackage]

Do you currently wait for a gas pump? I know I haven't waited for a gas pump in years...

Yes, it's usually a 2-3 minute wait at a BJs Gas pump.

[RandyO]

Do you currently wait for a gas pump? I know I haven't waited for a gas pump in years...

depends on time of day, don't get gas during commuting or Saturday morning

[csmutty]

Yes, it's usually a 2-3 minute wait at a BJs Gas pump.

So why would it be longer to wait for a battery swap?

[PurplePackage]

Did you see their setup? The swap station is like a car wash, there's only 2 bays. If you're low on battery, your options are waiting for the line to move ahead or walking. At a supercharger, you arrive and get immediate service. You can go take a piss, buy a donut, or whatever because you're not in a line.

[e30addict]

At a supercharger, you arrive and get immediate service.

That's a big assumption, especially as there are more EVsrunning around. People already block them as is now.

[RandyO]

I've always thought that universal hot swappable batteries should be an option to recharging

[gixxer72]

Was pondering a purchase of some Rivian stock seeing how low it is now. But they’ve never made money, in fact they lose $40k on every unit sold currently. They are predicted to run out of capital within 2 years without big $ new investors. Think I’ll pass, for now.

[csmutty]

That's a big assumption, especially as there are more EVsrunning around. People already block them as is now.

He loves making assumptions though. As long as they can benefit his EV agenda. He's completely blinded by the bias. It's almost kind of sad.

[Kurlon]

I've always thought that universal hot swappable batteries should be an option to recharging

Density isn't there yet, you have to design your vehicle around your battery as is, no way to make that universal without locking in many aspects of car design. We can't even agree on a universal 12v car battery, how do you expect to mandate a fixed EV batt?

[RandyO]

Density isn't there yet, you have to design your vehicle around your battery as is, no way to make that universal without locking in many aspects of car design. We can't even agree on a universal 12v car battery, how do you expect to mandate a fixed EV batt?

agree, remind me of this

[jhawley]

Do you currently wait for a gas pump? I know I haven't waited for a gas pump in years...

you've clearly never been to a Costo gas station

[csmutty]

you've clearly never been to a Costo gas station

Don't you remember where I live?? Now think about how far it would be to get to civilization where a Costco would be...

[OneCheekRider]

you've clearly never been to a Costo gas station

No line at 6am. That's when I go and pump 50+ gallons

[e30addict]

Lol. And people wonder why some think Tesla owners are douchey.....https://www.pcmag.com/news/tesla-own...g-supercharger

[RandyO]

charging stations had lines 40 cars deep in Lincoln NH after the eclipse

[gixxer72]

Cybertruck for sale in Scottsdale, 180k. Lol, one born every minute…

[Point37]

Cybertruck for sale in Scottsdale, 180k. Lol, one born every minute…

have to cover the $50k fine for reselling it

[Paul_E_D]

Saw my first tesla truck. It huge, and truly bizarre if nothing else the designer and company had brass balls for building and attempting to sell the thing.

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